Jeremy Wariner 43.8 4X4 leg Florida Relays

Maybe not wrote:

Bad Sneakers wrote:

Who says I didn't time it?

You were there?

Yes I was. Everyone around me had Wariner in the 44.5 range with none faster than 44.4.

Hmmm...

To me, it didn't 'look' like a 43.x relay leg, although I'm not the best judge.

Also, the reported 45-high seems more likely for Gay, given how easy he made it look. IMHO

10.6 sounds slow because it is not accurate for wariner at all. Even past his prime, he ran a 20.5 one year ago (20.2 in his prime). Not exactly sure what either of those translate to for 100m, but even the slowest of the two times has got to be well under 10.6....

Strength isn't very good indicator of 400m endurance

Johnson set the record at 31

Wariner ran close to that mark at a much younger age than Johnson ever did

Wariner has the top end to run a WR and plenty of time to do it(Johnson ran in the low 43s as a 29 year old)

Wariner may not have 9.66 speed or 19.34 speed but he has shown that he is only a few meters behind the world record as he shown at 23 years old.

Wariner is deceptive in how fast he his. He doesn't look like he's running 43's when he runs them.

not a 10.6 guy wrote:

10.6 sounds slow because it is not accurate for wariner at all. Even past his prime, he ran a 20.5 one year ago (20.2 in his prime). Not exactly sure what either of those translate to for 100m, but even the slowest of the two times has got to be well under 10.6....

10.5 guys with great endurance could run 20.5 but 20.2 means Wariner probably would have been in 10.2-10.3 shape which as skinny as he is, is impressive.

A 180lb Wariner could have been low 10's and way under 20.

spront wrote:

Wariner is deceptive in how fast he his. He doesn't look like he's running 43's when he runs them.

...and less so when he's not running them...such as at the Florida Relays.

If coach d says he's back.....then, he's probably not back. With an accuracy rate approaching 2%, I wouldn't place much stock in anything coach d has to say. He's a loser.

Bad Sneakers wrote:

Maybe not wrote:

You were there?

Yes I was. Everyone around me had Wariner in the 44.5 range with none faster than 44.4.

If you are telling the truth, then I concede the point

Well, it looks as though we have some controversy that will be resolved only when we see Wariner run again.

No doubt this guy has wheels, incredible wheels, doped or not. His 200 time, when that was not his prime event, is no joke.

I think that if he had concentrated on shorter distances, he would be Wallace Spearmon. He might even have been the first white guy to have gone under 10 had he tried seriously.

But, I think that 400 may have actually been his best distance. He did get close to the WR, after all, and he does have a bunch of medals that he certainly wouldn't have in the 100. He could probably have been great in the 200 in the Crawford/Gatlin/Kenteris era. I wish he had tried.

Checking out the times from back then, they had world leads in the 19.8's. Powell, Gatlin, and Gay were all in there, as were Patton and Spearmon! Bolt appears in 2004, with his 19.93, amazing. Most of the guys were running 20.x multiple times, with only a handful dipping below 20.

Wariner would have been very competitive in that environment.

Clearly Wariner's best event is the 400m.

His top 200m is what, 20.19?

Vs. 43.45 in the 400m.

No comparison