WISCO INVITE & PRE-NATS

The Stanford teams are mostly underclass. They're going to be tough the next few years.

Anyone know if Wisconsin Stout is running in this meet? I didn't see them on the list, but only ask because I am curious about defending DIII Athlete of the year Tim Nelson. It appears he has returned to Wisconsin Stout to capture a DIII XC title, but I was surprised a 13:57 guy didn't take his final season of eligibility to Wisconsin Madison, especially if they are looking for a 5th guy and this is his 5th year of college. Will be curious to see where he finishes, if he is in the fast race.

TheShepard wrote:

Anyone know if Wisconsin Stout is running in this meet? I didn't see them on the list, but only ask because I am curious about defending DIII Athlete of the year Tim Nelson. It appears he has returned to Wisconsin Stout to capture a DIII XC title, but I was surprised a 13:57 guy didn't take his final season of eligibility to Wisconsin Madison, especially if they are looking for a 5th guy and this is his 5th year of college. Will be curious to see where he finishes, if he is in the fast race.

you are an idiot.

shbang wrote:

1. Wisconsin

2. Oklahoma

3. Iona

4. Northern Arizona

5. Portland

6. Arkansas

7. Stanford

8. Princeton

9. Syracuse

10. Texas

11. Michigan

12. Columbia

13. Arizona State

14. Texas A&M

Here is my top 14.

No love for the Irish.

collegerunnar wrote:

TheShepard wrote:

Anyone know if Wisconsin Stout is running in this meet? I didn't see them on the list, but only ask because I am curious about defending DIII Athlete of the year Tim Nelson. It appears he has returned to Wisconsin Stout to capture a DIII XC title, but I was surprised a 13:57 guy didn't take his final season of eligibility to Wisconsin Madison, especially if they are looking for a 5th guy and this is his 5th year of college. Will be curious to see where he finishes, if he is in the fast race.

you are an idiot.

Why is he an idiot? I also am very curious to see where Nelson stacks up in this race. I personally think he will beat every Badger runner except for Darling and Connor. He could have helped the Badgers this fall, but it was probably the right choice to stay with the coach who got him to where he is rather than make a big change with only one season left. Nelson went from a 15:37 runner in 2010 to 14:33 in 2011 to 13:57 in 2012. I really hope he keeps training after this cross country season...sub 13:40 in 2013?

I don't see Wisconsin winning this. Darling hasn't raced yet and Mo isn't running and Connor might not either. I'm not saying they don't care about this meet, but the ultimate goal is a Big Ten Champ, NCAA Qualifying, and trying to win a NCAA title. It's always been that way at Wisconsin and that's what makes the program so great.

Nelson ran pretty average at Griak. I would be very surprised it he could beat any Badger that has aspirations of a top-7 finish on the team.

Nelson was hardly trying at Griak. He paced a couple of his teammates through 5K and then took off and ran down everybody in front of him. There's no doubt he was capable of breaking 25 (probably by quite a bit) if he had wanted to, but there was no reason to put out that kind of effort.

Hook 'em --- enough said

frf wrote:

Texas top 4 at Wisco

The top 2 teams in the South Central will both run very well and be top 5 in this meet, Texas 4th, Arkansas 5th. A&M...not so much. Can't see them placing ahead of Notre Dame!

Not sure why my original post engendered this type of response, didn't seem that outlandish really. I had read he did not run an all-out effort at Griak two weeks ago and he is the odds on favorite for the DIII title this year. He will obviously not win, but I am curious to see how he places. I cannot speak to his personal decision at all, but if I were a DIII stud with another season of eligibility and a state school like UW Madison had a killer DI team, I would certainly have considered trying to make my 5th year there. Good luck to him this weekend.

rumor has it that Dr. RVT will be covering the meet and posting the piece and every inside Paul Ryan-like factual detail and suable gossip at his editor's blog site,The Logic of Long Distance, by Sunday.

Will there be a live feed? Does anyone have a link?

Live feed for pre-nats??????????

From Pre-Nats: Unofficial Men's team top three- BYU, Colorado, Oregon

From Pre-Nats - Unofficial Women's top three: Florida St, Oregon, Michigan

Correction: Unofficial men's results Colorado 80, BYU 112, Oregon 133. Great result for Colorado if this becomes final.

CU 72 BYU 127

Official men's scores: Colorado 72, Brigham Young 127, Ducks 152, Florida State 275, Duke 287, Virginia Tech 288, Tulsa 292, Villanova 338.