Harper will NEVER get the media attention that Lolo has received because of the kind of person she is. Her true character has been revealed through her actions and words in the last 4 years.
This is the same reason you don't see Mike Vick or Plaxico Burres doing national TV commercials. At least Vick has been smart enough to try and change his image. I highly doubt that Harper is.
alicia62208 wrote:
They were both brought in an inner city urban area, so from a speech/presentation perspective the public can tell within 10 seconds of listening to them where they grew up.
not sure about her earlier years, but kellie wells went to a suburban high school.
I think she is so gorgeous. I'm just pissed cause she will probably meet some NFL star and be gone. The women of my dreams...will never know I exist. Pisses me off. However, hope she has a great future and the brightest life on the planet. Good luck LoLo!
Dawn's a member of the Kursing Kersee Klub you say?
Berry Intredesting.
That thing that caught my attention about Lolo leading into the Olympics was how many advisors she on speed dial to keep her mentally healthy. She sounded like a wreck. Made it all the more impressive when she ran well when it counted in the Olympics.
ZekeMississippi wrote:
My girlfriend and I just finished a good 5 mile jog, and sat down to read our favorite letsrun message board. Wow, this thread is like a soap opera! We decided to do a little Google hunting to piece together some context, and it's not looking good for the loving couple Dawn and Alonzo. Here's our take:
JJK tries to give Dawn some advice, and Tommy Sotomayor tries to give Dawn's boyfriend some advice. For those of you who don't know, Tommy Sotomayor is kinda like our Jon Stewart of Bill Maher, a little rough but funny as hell and usually on point. When you don't want to listen to people in your own community trying to give you advice, I suppose you gotta ride the wave! This is classic ish:
JACKIE JOYRNER'S ADVICE TO DAWN HARPER:
"Everybody wants sponsorship, everybody wants to be marketed. But not everybody is marketable. Just get the job done. Don't worry about who's getting attention or not getting attention. Get out there, focus on your lane, execute, and what's going to come your way is what's going to come your way."
DAWN HARPER'S RSPONSE TO ADVICE: "Ummm, no thanks, I'd rather act ghetto."
TOMMY SOTOMAYOR'S ADVICE TO DAWN'S BOYFRIEND (ALONZO NELSON):
Tommy Sotomayor (@tjsotomayor)
18 Aug / 1:33pm: way to go classless
Alonzo Nelson (@zoeesl)
18 Aug / 2:13pm: Why would you make such allegations? What truths r u writing frm... Ppl clearly will believe whatever they want to.
Tommy Sotomayor (@tjsotomayor)
18 Aug / 2:26pm: DUDE YOU RETWEETED A MAN CALLING LOLO JONES A HOE, WHY WOULD YOU DO SUCH A THING? SERIOUSLY HOW DOES THAT HELP DAWN?
Alonzo Nelson (@zoeesl)
18 Aug / 2:31pm: Oh! I hear you. Got ya. Funny how one retweet gives one a false perception of another.
Alonzo Nelson (@zoeesl)
18 Aug / 2:36pm: The mind is an interesting machine. It causes you to remember things you want, forget things u do; & at time quote things ppl never said...
Alonzo Nelson (@zoeesl)
18 Aug / 2:37pm: Tack!
Tommy Sotomayor (@tjsotomayor)
18 Aug / 9:29pm: I was just saying u might want to delete the tweet. That's all.
Alonzo Nelson (@zoeesl)
19 Aug / 2:43am: So, what do you think? With God on our side like this, how can we lose? If God didn't hesitate to put everything on the line for us, embracing our condition and exposing himself to the worst by sending his own Son, is there anything he wouldn't gladly and freely do for us? And who would dare tangle with God by messing with one of God's chosen? Who would dare even to point a finger?
ALONZO NELSON'S RESPONSE TO TOMMY SOTOMAYOR'S ADVICE: "How dare you expect me to mean what I say. It's preposterous that my words and actions have any meaning to them. Foolishness! And oh by the way, let me quote some scripture to let you know you're messing with one of God's chosen (me, of course). And it's because I'm one of God's chosen, I can freely retweet/tweet about people being 'hoes on prozac'. That's God's will! And one more thing. BOOM just like that."
Whew... this Alonzo character is right out of a Spike Lee movie. Reminded my girlfriend and I about alot of the black pastors in our neighborhood, preaching for three hours on Sunday about righteousness, and then secretly screwing two or three women in the church on the side and embezzling half of the building fund, cause he's "one of God's chosen!" Dude can't even admit he made a mistake, apologize, and move one. YWMV oughta do a video just on this guy.
What an idiot that guy Alonzo is. No brains.
A few comments on your post.
I'm not sure I'd call Lolo the Tim Tebow of track. Here's a snapshot of here resume:
11x NCAA All American
3x NCAA Champion
6x SEC Champion
2x Olympic Finalist
1x World Champion Finalist
3x World Athletics Finalist
2x World Indoor Champion
1x American Record Holder, Indoor 60mH
5x Ranked top-10 in World (2006-2010)
1x Ranked #1 in World (2008)
That's pretty good, and doesn't account for her Golden League and Diamond League results. Remember, Gail Devers never won an Olympic Gold medal in the 100mH either. Not saying she's Gail, but she's not too bad. For perspective, Kellie's been ranked in the top-10 in World 1x, and Dawn's been ranked top-10 in world 3x, and neither Kellie or Dawn have ever been ranked #1 in world. I'd say all three are greatly accomplished hurdlers, and wouldn't characterize any of them as scrubs.
Also you mentioned Lolo being 30 and past her prime. Gail set the American record at 33, and was internationally comeptitive into her late 30s. And Dawn, Kellie, and Lolo are all about the same age, give or take a little. I don't think age will be a factor for any of them moving forward, I'd actually expect all three to be top-10 in the world hurdlers for the next 4-5 years and collecting WC/OG medals. Two unknowns in that equation are injuries and young hurdlers; knees and hamstrings get injured all the time, and who knows if Christina Manning or Brianna Rollins or some other hurdler will emerge.
I know this thread was about the ill-advised tweets, but wanted to add some perspective to your comment.
yeah, i know. i get the same creepy vibe from certain pastors who tend to grope and look at the chests of some of the church hands.
second, that alonzo dude saying god is acting through him, lol. just as blasphemous as ryan hall, and they don't even know it!! ignorant.
Lolo tweeted this morning that she was on Fox and Friends. I wonder if Dawn and her boyfriend saw that? They must be fuming that Lolo continues the media circuit while they are sitting at home making nasty comments about her on Twitter.
Sounds like those 2 were meant for each other.
Before you call Tim Tebow the Lolo Jones of Track
The speech he gave after the Ole Miss lost was one of the greatest moment in post-game interviews. This is the exact opposite of Lolo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIQFf7A5wY
His 92 QB rating last year was higher than any of Sanchez' three ratings. He also won a playoff game in OT.
In case you missed him in College:
2× BCS National Championship (2007, 2009)
2× SEC Championship (2006, 2008)
2× First-team All-American (2007, 2008)
Second-team All-American (2009)
3× First-team All-SEC (2007, 2008, 2009)
AP Player of the Year (2007)
Davey O'Brien Award (2007)
2× Maxwell Award (2007, 2008)
Heisman Trophy (2007)
Quarterback of the Year (2007)
SEC Offensive Player of the Year (2008)
Manning Award (2008)
William V. Campbell Trophy (2009)
Just watched the Lolo Jones interview with Fox & Friends. Another good interview. Pretty cool what she's trying to do with Hurdles for Hope. This would be really awesome if Dawn Harper and Kellie Wells reached out to her (and other professional hurdlers and T&F athletes) and helped work collaboratively with her on this worthwhile mission. Powerful synergy if they work together.
Maybe one could start a competing charity called Hurdles for God, and donate the money, after administrative handling fees, to God's chosen few.
This guy is probably just someone from her hometown who wanted to get grab a little attention. Dawn Harper is married to former classmate at UCLA Craig Everhart
Lolo is a virgin guys calling her a hoe is just silly.
What defines a "virgin" though?
I worked with a girl who would give BJs and Anal but no Vaginal and called herself a virgin...and in the strict sense she is/was. She always claimed she was saving herself (vag) for the man she marries!
Yeah thats not a virgin. Pretty easy to tell if someone is lying, also pretty easy to tell if your girl is one to do that. If she lies about it, stay the f*** away from her!!! Chicks who lie are way worse than dudes who lie.
Also, isn't Dawn friends with Allyson? How are they friends when one seems semi-educated and articulate and the other is a complete ghetto hoochie?
And when I say ghetto hoochie I don't mean Allyson, although she may have some ghetto in her.
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Also, isn't Dawn friends with Allyson? How are they friends when one seems semi-educated and articulate and the other is a complete ghetto hoochie?
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Damn - I guess you get a lot of hostility thrown at you when you beat Lolo consistently.
I am a fan of Lolos's but I thought it was unfair that she got so much attention after the 2008 Olympics. However, after watching the way the Dawn Harper has conducted herself in interviews I can see why she wouldn't get attention.
She has come off very sarcastic and although I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, she doesn't appear to have much class.
Whoever this guy is that made the distasteful tweet about Lolo has probably guaranteed that Harper will not get any endorement opportunities.
I think 'ghetto hoochie' is kinda harsh. She completed her B.A. in Psychology from UCLA, is articulate and well spoken. Seems like her problem is that she's tone-deaf and ignorant about what affects marketing, marketability, commercial endorsements, TV/radio sports journalism, publicity, and such. As JJK said, what will come will come, you can't force someone to endorse you or do a story on you. She's not the first T&F athlete that clashed with the PR side of things -- Carl Lewis generated alot of anomosity in his heyday, so did Gwen Torrence. Didn't stop them from winning a ton of hardware though! Pretty sure regardless of how the marketing side of things work out, she'll need a tractor trailer to carry all of the hardware she's gonna win in the next 4 years. She's fierce as hell on the track.
I just want to point out that if Harper has decided to play the mean girl to Jones' girl next door, it is clearly working to her benefit. She is getting a hell of a lot more airtime on these discussion boards, and this is post-olympics on a distance running website.
If you don't think this will lead to more attention in the media, and as a result greater celebrity, you are crazy.