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  • think about it

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/18/2011 1:16pm EST
    re: Yallaredumb

    Yallaredumb wrote:

    CO2 is currently at about 380ppm (only 4% anthropogenic) of the atmosphere. During the Early Carboniferus period it was at about 1500ppm of the atmosphere.

    If the earth was currently populated by organisms from the Carboniferous period maybe that would mean something.

    CO2 increase does not cause temperature increase, it is the other way around. Water vapor (clouds) is the biggest greenhouse gas.

    You've got this backwards. Increased temperature -> increased water vapor. It's a positive feedback mechanism that makes small temperature changes worse.

    The IPCC was formed to help Margaret thatcher's campaign for nuclear power (to make fossil fuels look bad, solar, wind inefficient).

    So Margaret Thatcher was behind the greatest liberal conspiracy of our generation? If that's true it's hilarious.

  • Fishologist

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/18/2011 3:11pm EST
    re: guy123guy123

    guy123guy123 wrote:

    Water Vapor and the Sun: Red herring. I assume you would agree that the only thing that matter in running is not getting sick the day before a race? Training and talent are irrelevant. Most things have multiple factors, but they can be controlled for.

    IPCC: Dumb. Legitimately stupid argument.

    So in your experiment you were able to control the sun and water vapor in our atmosphere, while you raised and lowered CO2 levels resulting in the average global temperature either increasing or decreasing?

    You must have had one hell of a grant.

  • guy123guy123

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/18/2011 5:08pm EST
    re: Fishologist

    Fishologist wrote:

    So in your experiment you were able to control the sun and water vapor in our atmosphere, while you raised and lowered CO2 levels resulting in the average global temperature either increasing or decreasing?

    You must have had one hell of a grant.

    Milankovitch cycles, water vapor, Co2, et al. all impact the climate. That doesn't mean it's impossible to figure out how they interact.

    I don't think you understand what controlling for a variable means.

  • BertNEarnie

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/18/2011 5:20pm EST
    re: guy123guy123

    Bert: Earnie, why do u have a banana in your ear?

    Earnie: To keep the alligators away.

    Bert: There are no alligators here.

    Earnie: See, it's working!

    That's the same logic AlG and his minions use for all the BS. Only they make a fortune off the idea.

  • More accurate analogy

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/18/2011 5:35pm EST
    re: BertNEarnie

    Bert: Ernie, you keep getting bit by alligators. Maybe you should stop smearing yourself with chicken fat and swimming in jungle rivers!

    Ernie: Why?? You can't prove they wouldn't bite me anyway!

  • guy123guy123

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/18/2011 9:52pm EST
    re: BertNEarnie

    BertNEarnie wrote:

    Bert: Earnie, why do u have a banana in your ear?

    Earnie: To keep the alligators away.

    Bert: There are no alligators here.

    Earnie: See, it's working!

    That's the same logic AlG and his minions use for all the BS. Only they make a fortune off the idea.

    meh. you're not smart enough to look at the evidence so I'm not going to argue.

  • bert and ernie fan

    Anonymous Poster

    15 years ago 02/19/2011 11:55am EST
    re: More accurate analogy

    More accurate analogy wrote:

    Bert: Ernie, you keep getting bit by alligators. Maybe you should stop smearing yourself with chicken fat and swimming in jungle rivers!

    Ernie: Why?? You can't prove they wouldn't bite me anyway!

    POD!

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