Nicely said.
Nicely said.
A really interesting thing to ponder both philosophically and practically is when things that seem alike are different and when things that seem different are alike.
If your best 10 mile is fifty minutes and mine is 60 minutes and we get together for a 10 mile run that takes 65 minutes did we do the same thing? Obviously we both ran the asme course in the same time but I was likely working much harder than you were.
In that vein, when Snell was doing his base work at 70-80 miles a week and managing on occasion to get up to 100 was he doing the same thing as Jeff Julian who would sometimes run a marathon before breakfast, go to work, then do another 15 miles at night? Both of them were pushing their mileage tolerance to its limit so in one sense they were doing the same thing. But running a marathon before breakfast and work is a lot different than running 4-5 miles then. Both were done with Lydiard's knowledge and approval as he recognized that neither man could be expected to benefit from what was an optimal workload for the other.
HRE,
NOW we are talking.
This is something I have thought about a fair bit - while out on a jaunt. Last night I ran with two friends, one I am faster than and have tolerated more miles than however, because of a chronic injury he and I are about the same (will fix injury - long story). we ran for 90 minutes. The other person found this run to be tougher, as she happens to be not quite a fast or more accurately not aerobically capable at this moment.
I suggest she benefited the most.
But let's say I am unfit compared to normal...or when I was fit, but still lingering fatigue from recent training...because my heart rate was a little higher than it would be normally, am I getting the same cardio-vascular benefits that I get when less tired and moving faster at same said heart rate?
I assume not as my body is also coping with recovering from before, but there must be something to that.
OH dear wrote:
wellnow wrote:The lydiard philosophy remains a huge influence after his death because he inspired self belief, that you are as good as your training, and you can always improve the training.
No, the Lydiard philosophy remains a huge influence because it worked. Period. All the self-belief in the world won't inspire anything if it doesn't work.
Lydiard took a bunch of nobodies from basically the local area and made them into world beaters. That's why he is remembered. His training produced results.
Meanwhile, the armchair exercise physiologists here endlessly prattle on about "the importance of neuromuscular coordination" while producing nothing.
Lydiard's guys would shake their heads and laugh. Then they'd go out for another ten mile run. Then they'd lap you.
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That's just ignorance. May I remind you that the top runners today are faster and not coached by Lydiard?
Can I also remind you that Lydiard himself spoke and wrote a huge amount of fizzyology nonsense?
People like me intend to put these things into perspective. If your fragile ego can't handle that, or you are too ignorant to learn, then don't blame me, for your problems.