The Freedom Movement is the greatest thing happening on the political landscape

I <3 the Tea Party wrote:

Only the most disingenuous smear artist defending the most untenable position would find it necessary to mention pundits in a philosophical debate about the proper role of governemnt. I don't adopt Gleen Beck's statements as my own, don't have to answer for anything he says, and have never even heard of Mark Willims in my life. Unless you have proof of a racist statement coming out of MY OWN MOUTH (or from my own keyboard), then YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR and you have no valid complaint against me.

1) You like that word "disingenuous", huh? Buy a thesaurus.

2) You and the other tea party members' ramblings are part of a "philosophic debate" ? Could have fooled me. Do you know what "angry mob" means? That's a better description I would say.

3) I didn't say you had to answer for Glenn Beck or Mark Williams (very convenient that you've never heard of a very prominent wingnut tea party leader with plenty of followers), so calm down. I just asked you to either defend or decry the very "smear" that you and other tea parties seem to find so detestable: the "meritless" charges of "racism" leveled at those are not actually racist. Since you seem conveniently unaware of Beck and Williams' comments, I will repeat them for you:

Beck said Obama is a racist with a "deep seated hatred for white people", and Williams said Obama is the "racist in chief", and “an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug." Many, many tea partiers that you claim are such "truly good" people agreed with those comments.

So step up or shut up: do you find those "meritless charges" of racism, when leveled from right wingers at our 1/2 black president, as offensive as you find them they are leveled at white tea partiers by "the left" ?? nahh... you barely even noticed them.

I hate the KKK and Tea Party for being racists against Blacks, Mexicans, Jews, Arabs, LGBT, Asians, etc.

But I believe Obama is a racist even though he was raised by white grandparents in Asian dominated cultures (Hawaii, Indonesia) since he hates Muslims and loves to shoot Muslim Children in the back by the thousands.

I don't like the KKK, Tea Party, nor Obama for being racist.

I voted for Obama in Nov 2008, but I won't vote in 2010 nor 2012 for any candidate who hates Blacks, Mexicans, Jews, Arabs, LGBT, Asians, or Muslims.

Above is a nice article describing Williams and his PROMINENT role in the party that you love. Yeah, but you never heard of him.

This seems to describe your attitude to a "T" (pun intended)-

"The Tea Party movement presents itself as a loosely organized web of groups and individuals. The lack of structure allows associates to duck responsibility for people who can conveniently be labeled as “rogue.’’ "

In other words: any time tea party leaders, or groups of tea partiers, make outrageous statements, you can easily distance yourself by saying: I don't know them, or I don't follow them, or they are not true leaders of the party.

Here is a quote by that dimwit Palin:

"“I am saddened by the NAACP’s claim that patriotic Americans who stand up for the United States of America’s constitutional rights are somehow ‘racists,’ The charge that Tea Party Americans judge people by the color of their skin is false, appalling and is a regressive and diversionary tactic to change the subject at hand.’’ "

Oh boo hoo, it makes her sad. But again, where was she when her BUDDY (yes, her buddy) Mark Williams, and her Fox News Pal Glenn Beck were calling our commander in chief a racist that hates the white race ??? Where were her stupid facebook posts then? Where was your outrage being expressed on letsun about that ??? Oh, I GET it, when it a black man who leads the democratic party, charges of racism, no matter how absurd in reality, are justified and rightfully made. But when they are made towards the lunatic fringe of the right wing tea partiers, they are just sooo offensive, and wrong, and disgusting and appalling and a "diversionary tactic".

What a load of crap.

Obama has proven to me beyond a shadow of doubt that he is an anti-White racist.

Obama quickly came to the defense of Sherrod, and Henry Gates, but ignored Helen Thomas and Octavia Nasr when they were fired.

Obama ordered the Justice Department to stand up for the rights of Mexicans in Arizona, but ordered his occupation troops in Gaza to murder 1000 Palestinians in 2009, and 100,000 Muslim whites in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

And where is Oprah, Reverend Jesse, Diane Watson, Nelson Mandela, etc. when it comes to White people's Civil Rights in the Middle East ?

Go on wrote:

Okay, reasonable message.

What is the movement's plan to achieve these three initiatives in tandem? I'm looking for specifics.

A strong response to this post would begin along the lines of, "If the Freedom movement were to successfully inherit political power tomorrow, it would make advocate for the following changes...In order to remedy the nations existing problems of..."

Please, I am very interested in what you guys have to say.

I'm not a Tea Party member. I just don't think it's fair to dismiss them and label them all as racists. I'm in the same boat at you, I'm very interested in hearing what specifics they have to achieve these goals.

Dear Sir Lance-alot,

I am aware of Beck's embarrassing statements, but they are irrelevant because they reflect his views only. Although he shares most of my political beliefs, he has a totally different philosophy of life and a long list of serious character flaws which tend to emerge during his broadcasts. For this reason, he is a bad mouthpeice for the freedom movement. If he goes on a hysterical tangent and says something idiotic, it reflects only on him and those individuals who openly agree with him, not on the whole freedom movement. So if I have to answer for Glenn Beck and the KKK, you have to answer for Louise Farakkahn and the afrocentric racists associated with the left. Ridiculous, no?

"Tea Party" members will simply vote republican this fall and in two years, so what exactly is different about what they are doing?

Louise Farakkahan is a radical fringe of the Left. Very few on the left follow him and almost no one listens to him anymore. He is shock value only and a little crazy and most members of the left see this and denounce him ALL THE TIME, just read a paper after some of his stupid comments.

Glen Beck is not on the fringe of the right. He is one of their biggest mouth pieces. He is hugely popular and million's listen to him and agree with his statements.

Do you honestly think that Farakkahan has the same listening audience as Beck?

If there is a leader of the freedom movement it is Glen Beck. You might not agree with all he says but I guarantee most freedom movement members agree with 95 percent of what he says.

What you SHOULD be paying attention to is this:

The same group of morons complaining the most about our present situation, are the most responsible for creating it. If the anti-regulation nutcases had simply not opposed regulation of the over-the-counter derivatives that Warren Buffett and others warned about, the devastation of the world economy would have been much less severe.

Keep in mind what happened AFTER the original Tea Party: The British Government closed the Port of Boston until the "tea deficit" (i.e., what was thrown into Boston Harbor) had been repaid.

Go on wrote:

Independent thinker wrote:

Their overwhelming message seems to be "less taxes, smaller government, balanced budget".

Okay, reasonable message.

What is the movement's plan to achieve these three initiatives in tandem? I'm looking for specifics.

A strong response to this post would begin along the lines of, "If the Freedom movement were to successfully inherit political power tomorrow, it would make advocate for the following changes...In order to remedy the nations existing problems of..."

Please, I am very interested in what you guys have to say.

Good luck with that.

Less taxes, smaller government, balanced budget. Didn't Clinton get us the closest to that out of the last half dozen presidents? They must love Clinton.

Nah, I'm kidding. Here's what they'd do:

1. Ban gay marriage (states' rights is only for stuff they like)

2. Ban abortion (ditto)

3. Fund the military so that they can kill brown people (small government doesn't extend to national offense. Defense. Whatever)

4. Cut taxes

5. Gut social services

6. Gut environmental and business regulations

7. Run up a huge deficit

8. Cut taxes again

9. Declare victory

DontFeedTheTroll wrote:

Nah, I'm kidding. Here's what they'd do:

1. Ban gay marriage (states' rights is only for stuff they like)

2. Ban abortion (ditto)

3. Fund the military so that they can kill brown people (small government doesn't extend to national offense. Defense. Whatever)

4. Cut taxes

5. Gut social services

6. Gut environmental and business regulations

7. Run up a huge deficit

8. Cut taxes again

9. Declare victory

Which is exactly what David Stockman just blamed most for our present situation.

Nearly 100% of the GOP, NEOCON, and Tea Party are racists or Uncle Tom/Aunt Jemaimah sell-out types. They use code words as euphemisms to plot and scheme hatred against their victims. Learn to identify the code words in their rants. Their brand is racism is 'skin color' based. They believe that the whiter the more privileged..

A great majority of the Democrats have been identified as "Religion" based racists who believe that Muslims do not have rights as human beings and that other religions have the right to steal Muslim land, rape, and murder Muslim people regardless of education, nationality, or skin color. Obama and the Democrats have murdered thousands of White Muslims in the Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and Pakistan.

Great. The White Semitic Muslims retard is back. Or never left.

Identify racism when you see it and try to eradicate racism whenever possible. Spread the message of love. Dr Martin Luther King Jr, Mohandas Ghandi, and Jesus Christ died fighting racism of all sorts.

swofford11 wrote:

Louise Farakkahan is a radical fringe of the Left. Very few on the left follow him and almost no one listens to him anymore. He is shock value only and a little crazy and most members of the left see this and denounce him ALL THE TIME, just read a paper after some of his stupid comments.

Glen Beck is not on the fringe of the right. He is one of their biggest mouth pieces. He is hugely popular and million's listen to him and agree with his statements.

Do you honestly think that Farakkahan has the same listening audience as Beck?

If there is a leader of the freedom movement it is Glen Beck. You might not agree with all he says but I guarantee most freedom movement members agree with 95 percent of what he says.

All pundits are media clowns who are paid to stir up shit on TV. They are not intellectuals and are not the driving forces behind the ideas they represent. The true "leaders" of the freedom movement are thinkers like Thomas Jefferson, Ludwing Von Mises, Murray Rothbard and Ayn Rand. Not fucking Glenn Beck. Furthermore, the movement gets most of its steam from the internet, not television. We arrived at this position by thinking for ourselves, not by accepting what the media spoon-feeds the s

Thomas Jefferson was a slave holder who raped his slaves. Thomas Jefferson is burning is hell now and for all eternity for his crimes against humanity,

Farrakhan is a racist who denies membership to his church based on skin color even though he is yellow-skinned himself.

Glen Beck is a racist Mormon crack-pot who loves listening to himself more than his flock of underage wives do.

swofford11 wrote:

Louise Farakkahan is a radical fringe of the Left. Very few on the left follow him and almost no one listens to him anymore. He is shock value only and a little crazy and most members of the left see this and denounce him ALL THE TIME, just read a paper after some of his stupid comments.

Glen Beck is not on the fringe of the right. He is one of their biggest mouth pieces. He is hugely popular and million's listen to him and agree with his statements.

Do you honestly think that Farakkahan has the same listening audience as Beck?

If there is a leader of the freedom movement it is Glen Beck. You might not agree with all he says but I guarantee most freedom movement members agree with 95 percent of what he says.

All pundits are media clowns who are paid to stir up shit on TV. They are not intellectuals and are not the driving forces behind the ideas they represent. The true "leaders" of the freedom movement are thinkers like Thomas Jefferson, Ludwing Von Mises, Murray Rothbard and Ayn Rand. By far the biggest living influence is Ron Paul. Not fucking Glenn Beck. This movement gets most of its steam from the internet, not television, and we didn't arrive at a totally heterodox position that puts us at odds with everyone else by accepting an intellectual spoon-feeding from the MSM.

Who started calling the Tea Party participants racists? The MSM. Usually when someone can't argue the truth reasonably they just resort to calling you names and try to smear you.

Like when some conservatives who love John McCain call Obama a Socialist or Communist when McCain is about 95% as much a big government man as Obama.

Go Ron Paul! And also a big plug for the Mises Institute.

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www.lewrockwell.com