Given where these guys are at this point I do not see them being around for a fifth year, although I could be wrong.
Given where these guys are at this point I do not see them being around for a fifth year, although I could be wrong.
They indeed seem talented, but they're not "no-miss" professional track runners. Unless Jerry has his eyes set on making it worthwhile for them to turn down a scholarship, not sure the "professional" money will be better. Mellon isn't even the most talented freshman 800 runner in the conference, Loxsom from Penn State!
Mellon ran a 4x400 leg at the Florida Relays and hasn't competed since, although he's been entered a couple of times. Ahmed could just be not ready yet after World Cross and will debut at the Big Ten's. Or not. Connor looks like a redshirt.
Mellon hurt.
Can save redshirt even though ran that long ago maybe?
Connor isn't helping anyways.
Ahmed will help in 10k and 5k.
80 points sounds very realistic even without Mellon/Ahmed.
state street man wrote:
70 points is going to happen!
800
Rucks 5th, Beth 6th = 7
STEEPLE
Gasper win and Shields is 5th = 14
1500
Blankenship wins. Miller 2nd, Bolas 4th, Finnerty 5th = 17
5000
Bayer wins. Peacock 2nd, Miller 3rd, Gasper 6th, Darling 7th = 19
10,000
Peacock 3rd, Krause 4th, Darling 7th = 13
Ahmed will be top 5 if they run him?
Jeff See will probably be in the top 3 of the 1500 and 5k
Bolas is just beginning to return from injury and might not be very good yet, although he has another 10 days.
Saying that Mellon isn't even the best freshman 800 guy n the league is misleading when the other guy has set an AmJr Record.
Also, Jefferson is now down into the 46s and Groce has run a 45.7r and the 4x100 and 4x400 are now ranked in the top 2 or 3, and their new 400h guy ran 52 and Dehn is up over 225 already in the JT.
Jeff See MIGHT be in top 3 in 1500 (Bayer, Blankenship, Miller, Bolas have all run much faster this season and/or PB), but for sure won't even score in the 5k. I don't think he ever has; just too big!
Sorry Buckeyes wrote:
Jeff See ... for sure won't even score in the 5k. I don't think he ever has; just too big!
He has the top time in the conference on the season and it'll likely be tactical which will play to his mile speed. I think you confused "5K" with "Marathon"
After what See did at Drake (3:57 and 1:47 splits with ridiculous last 200's) and Stanford(13:44), he has to be the clear favorite in the 1500. Who knows about the 5000, none of the top guys will be running fresh, anything could happen with the 10K guys coming back two days later, the Steeple guys coming back a day later and the 1500 guys running their second race of the day.
Could See run the Steeple at Big Ten's? Weird place for a debut, but it would be awesome.
See has won just one Big 10 title and never scored in the 5k at conference. I wouldn't put him in the top 3 for 1500 with Blankenship, Miller, and Bayer all having run much faster open 1500.
Sorry Buckeyes wrote:
Jeff See MIGHT be in top 3 in 1500 (Bayer, Blankenship, Miller, Bolas have all run much faster this season and/or PB), but for sure won't even score in the 5k. I don't think he ever has; just too big!
Almost as big as Solinsky, maybe; that means that he shouldn't be much good at anything much longer than 10,000m. He has good chops at 5000 as well as some pretty impressive finishes. Remember, the Big Ten is about RACING, and he does the racing part pretty well. I am a Wisconsin fan, but I think his chances of winning are better than Miller's and much better than Bolas'.
See what? wrote:
See has won just one Big 10 title and never scored in the 5k at conference. I wouldn't put him in the top 3 for 1500 with Blankenship, Miller, and Bayer all having run much faster open 1500.
I believe Jeff has a better or comparable PR to almost everyone in the race. Regardless, ability to run the fastest 1500m time is meaningless in a tactical championship race.
Jeff See will win both the 15 and the 5k.
15 will go like this:
See
Miller
Bayer
Hubers
Blankenship
Thode
Bolas
Finnerty
5k
See
Rombough
Bayer
Slew of Wisco guys
Irish wrote:
Jeff See will win both the 15 and the 5k.
15 will go like this:
See
Miller
Bayer
Hubers
Blankenship
Thode
Bolas
Finnerty
5k
See
Rombough
Bayer
Slew of Wisco guys
Wisco might make strategic moves to break up the top three here. However, it is hard to predict, as it is at the end and will play differently if placings in the league are not at play or if some teams push hard while others do not because their positions are in play or not in play. In addition, often those in the league race often have people doubling and what they do can be affected by prior races. Wisconsin might even race the 1500s differently to tire guys for the 5000. What if Finnerty [or Bolas] goes out at 59/60 Does See [and/or Blankenship] give chase?
Penn State have the potential to break up the 1500m. They have the number one time from this season with Ryan Foster and a previous winner Sam Borchers. You'd think given their strength in the 800m that both these runners could be running the 1500m. They certainly aren't going to win the team title but plays like this might influence the battle between Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio St.
Minnesota wins easily. They have bodies everywhere and high up at the top. Pole vault, Decathlon will be over 40 points alone.
Iowa will get up for 2nd on the backs of their spinters and a couple very good throwers.
IU is at home and has some guaranteed points in the field (triple, high, pole). Bayer, Poore, Hubers and Turner (steeple) are going to be in there as well.
Wisconsin for 4th relying on distance runners for a big portion (score 3 per distance event except for steeplechase). Throw in some field and Jefferson/Groce in 400 along with short hurdlers.
OSU sprinters, Jeff See, and steeple, but that's it.
PSU could move around some middle distance (1500 and/or 800) to go along with their throwers, but not nearly enough bodies.
Illinois has a couple really good sprinters, but not much else.
Michigan has hurdlers, long/triple, and Lex Williams. Forys hurt again?
MSU and Purdue will have a huge battle to try to reach 20 points. Bad, very bad.
Penn State will be much better than 6th. High jumper is back and middle distance guys will doable or branch out for big points out of 800 and 1500 (Borchers darkhorse to win). Shot putters have been consistent and should go 1-2. Close to 100 points right there is it falls into place!
As a Badger fan I hate to admit it, but it looks like they're not going to have enough to challenge Minnesota. Iowa is looking tough too. Wisco is leaving too many points on the sidelines in Ahmed, DeFilippo, Connor, and Mellon (injured?). Plus Bolas is just getting back up to speed. Although he did run a solid 800 on Saturday. There is still no sign of the long jumper, Jenkins. He could win it on a good day based on his PR.
OSU not even in the running? Indoors, they were a distant 2nd behind Minnesota, but way ahead of Wisconsin too!
Bolas will easily be top 5 at 1500m. He has a PR of 3:37. That is over 3 seconds faster than anyone but his teammate Miller.