I should also add that my comments originally were meant more as "Penn State tends to underperform in outdoors across the board compared to their indoor performances."
And again, I believe much of this is the track they regularly compete on, or rather the fact that they compete in such a high profile facility that the mentality of the coaching program is focused a little too heavily on indoor track without perhaps the proper long-term considerations.
Penn State just simply doesn't have the talent on their cross country team to compete. Sure, a top coach might yield a better result with the team, but they simply haven't recruited a high caliber true cross guy in the past couple years when compared to other big D1 schools.
looks like centro is redshirting indoors, according to one of the oregon articles on the front page.
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And to the other poster, I'm pretty sure Lincoln ran 4:01 in the DMR leg at Sykes-Sabock that year.
Chris Foster ran 4:01.6 on the DMR at Sykes-Sabock in 2005. I was 2:55.4 on the 1200...My 5th year, 2006, I didn't have indoor eligibility.
Outdoors in '05 I ran 3:44.65 and in '06 I ran 3:43.58.... I wouldn't call it barely breaking 4.
Linc, what do you think about Sam Bair?
Also, tell us about running for Phoenix...What is your training like? What are your salary/benefots?
I am just curious.
BTW, I was at PSU Saturday...Nice finish, and a good opening race for you and Sam!
Why would you try to pretend to be qualified to talk about this? Did you see the link I sent you showing it was Foster who ran the 4:01? Are you now going to tell Linc that he is wrong too? Hey Matt you are misremembering, it was actually you who ran that time! ;lkajsdfa you have said nothing accurate this whole thread.
;lkajsdfa wrote:
And to the other poster, I'm pretty sure Lincoln ran 4:01 in the DMR leg at Sykes-Sabock that year.
Since the early 80's, PSU is 800U.
http://psutafalumnigolf.blogspot.com/2010/01/25th-anniversary-of-race.html
I did forget Nova on accident....As far as big time public schools...Penn State is it...It's not like say Virginia where you have a UVA and Vtech...or Michigan with UofM and MSU...that was how I meant it...my bad on neglecting the wildcats...
Villanova doesn't really recruit in state either...Most of their guys are from all over the place...Men's XC roster has 25 names, only 4 PA guys...just as many from New Zealand and Australia..
Pennsylvania is a pretty solid state overall as far as talent goes (top 5-10 in the country?), I'm just surprised that PSU doesn't get every decent PA recruit...they've got little in-state competition...For a state the size of Pennsylvania I just thought PSU could do better...
you have a TON of good running schools in a driveable range (5-6 hours).
for women you've got princeton, WVU, villanova, for most PA'ers georgetown as well.
men you've got nova, la salle on occasion gets some good recruits, pitt (sam bair), even ohio state isn't too far away to the west.
SebCoesGhost wrote:
Linc, what do you think about Sam Bair?
Also, tell us about running for Phoenix...What is your training like? What are your salary/benefots?
I am just curious.
BTW, I was at PSU Saturday...Nice finish, and a good opening race for you and Sam!
Thanks, it was a solid opener. I wasn't really sure where I was at because we've only done one session all year where I did anything under 60 second quarter pace. It was my first time having spikes on since October 1st as well. I would have liked to have run faster, but I'm not too disappointed.
Tough luck for Bair again. If we had gone out a second faster for the first lap or two, I'm pretty sure all three of us would have broken 4. He's a good guy though, if he keeps training the way he is, he should dip under at some point this year.
haha No salary from Phoenix. It's just the club I run for. I pay annual fees just like everyone else. They support me with travel/accommodations to a few meets each year. We have a good training group going with them though...
Brady Gehret committed to Penn State yesterday.
FranklinField wrote:
Brady Gehret committed to Penn State yesterday.
This is great news. He's got some speedy wheels for sure.
How about Tom Mallon of CB West? I know he came on a visit and it he was down to PSU and Stanford. If I were him, I'd feel like PSU was just to deep of a mid distance squad to join and really make an impact. But I guess those guys are getting older and new recruits have to take their place eventually.
Nevermind, just saw the article on PennTrack, looks like he's committed to Stanford. What a talent.
Thanks, Linc! You really did run well for an opener Saturday. Where do you plan to run again?
Interesting that you're running for a club. Where do you train? Do you have any other sub-4:00 milers in your group? Does your group pick up all travel expenses?
I am sure a goal of yours has to be to land a professional contract at some point...What kind of times do you think it would take for a miler like you or Bair to get a professional contract from a shoe company/sponsor, that would be suitable for you rto live on (maybe 1500-2000 a month)???