i think you all just got shut up because Ricky Flynn won a National Championship. I bet a lot of you have been beaten by Ricky and you are just mad that he is a much better runner than you are. The Lynchburg team is a great bunch of guys when you get to know them.
shut up wrote:
i think you all just got shut up because Ricky Flynn won a National Championship. I bet a lot of you have been beaten by Ricky and you are just mad that he is a much better runner than you are. The Lynchburg team is a great bunch of guys when you get to know them.
No its not that. If your reasoning were correct there would be a lot of people Id be mad at. Ive been beat by a lot better runners than Ricky Flynn.
Lynchburg baby! No one gunna party harder tonight, BRING ON THE TWRAY JUICE!
Peggs just laid the smackdown on ya'll no joke. Took apart each and every one of those foolish arguments Hornet style baaaaby
I don't normally post on Letsrun, I usually just read it for entertainment, but this thread is the precise reason I don't allow our athletes to post on here. I'm sure by commenting I will be subjecting myself and our own team to criticism, as well, but even so, I feel the need to voice my opinion on this ridiculous thread. I can only hope that it was started in sarcasm and not sincerity.
I don't understand why people have to "hate" other teams. If anyone has a reason to "hate" Lynchburg, it should be me, given that we have finished 2nd to them the last two years in the ODAC XC Championships, including by a mere 2 point margin in 2008. But I do NOT hate Lynchburg. I think quite highly of them actually, and why wouldn't anyone, given their success? They didn't do it with luck.
As a North Central College alumnus, i was taught to respect tradition, which is what I have towards Lynchburg: respect. I've only known Dr. Toms for six years, but I would safely bet that it took a tremendous amount of work to build the program to the level it is and has been for many years. As someone trying to do the same, I respect how difficult it is.
North Central put one of the best D-3 teams in history on the course today and Ricky Flynn flat out destroyed everyone from every school. Even though I coach at a rival college, I am not ashamed to say that I was screaming my head off for Ricky because it is good for the ODAC and it is good for the South Region. I yelled equally as loud for every other South Region runner that I spotted in both the men and women's races. It is in everyone's best interest for other teams in their conference and region to do well.
It raises the level of performance for everyone. I know it certainly does for our team. If we want to beat Lynchburg, we have to work harder to do it, and by them being good, it makes us better. The same could be said for any good schools in the conference or region.
I hope they continue to be good and that the ODAC and the South Region continue to get better. When the time comes that our team is fortunate enough to win, it will be more satisfying to beat a good team than to beat weak teams. Where's the pride in beating teams that aren't good?
I feel fortunate to have a good relationship with many rival coaches in the ODAC and the region. Several are relationships I value very highly. It is quite possible to have "friendly" competition. Teams (both coaches and athletes) can be friends and still have a deep desire to beat each other. "Hate" is not a necessary ingredient to success.
Kevin Peggs is spot-on when he said that if you are bitter towards Lynchburg for being good, then use it as motivation to work harder. And if you want your own team to be respected, show respect to other teams and try to understand that it's good for the conference and the region for every team to do as well as possible. You should have as much pride in your conference and your region as you do in your school and your team. It's all part of a bigger picture.
Mat Littleton
Head Men's XC/Track & Field Coach
Virginia Wesleyan College
It was definitely started as sarcasm. And, I'm glad Ricky won. We raced in high school.
out to pasture wrote:
Lynchburg City: the armpit of Virginia unless I'm missing something.
I'm assuming you've only been to the strip out by Liberty, which is horrendous. Lynchburg is one of the prettiest cities I've visited. The views of the mountains are great. There are miles of beautiful neighborhoods in the part of town where the VA 10 miler is run (the north side, I think). The city is also fairly runner-friendly and much more active in the outdoors than most southern cities.
I suggest you visit the Danville/South Boston/Halifax region or try spending a few nights in downtown Newport News. Depending on your definition of "armpit," I venture that either one of these will beat Lynchburg easily.
Coach Littleton,
I have been extremely impressed by the strides the Virginia Weslyian XC/Track program has made in the years since I was a freshman at Lynchburg College up until now. To take a program basically from birth to where it is now in such a short span of time is incredible and a large amount of credit needs to go to the coaching staff. I think I can speak on behalf of the entire ODAC when I say that you are doing a very, very good thing for us and I hope the Marlins will continue the strides they have made in the past few years. Good luck this indoor/outdoor season and in every year to come!
Kevin Peggs Class of 08 wrote:
2. To whatever anonymous poster said the women's team is ugly-if you actually met some of them you would find that they are the some of the genuinely nicest young ladies you will ever meet. They have no interest in talking to clowns who bash them and their school anonymously on letsrun though, sorry.
Will they talk to me if I only bash their guys team and don't do it anonymously? I need guarantees here, Peggsy, hook a brother up.
3. To whoever has said the academic standards are weak-the whole 'my school is stronger academically than yours' argument is a bunch of bull. When you get your undergraduate degree nobody in the 'real world' gives a crap where it's from as long as you have it.
Man, I guess all those kids paying 40k a year to go to Harvard look really silly now.
From Direct Athletics:
Meet Web Site:
http://www.lynchburg.edu/x8114.xmlMeet Notes: A recently completed brand new state of the art track & field facility. The facility features a top of the line 8 lane 115’ degree turn radius polyurethane embedded track with two-directional long jump, pole vault and high jump capabilities. Fully automated Hy-Tek timing will be used and heights will be measured with new laser precision to increase speed and accuracy. Wind gages will also be utilized in all the sprints and jumps. The throwing facilities are also brand new with a full hammer / discus cage and the javelin is thrown off of a runway.
The description seems to imply a track similar to what is presently in place at Hayward Field, and apparently new for the 2010 season. Anybody know if this is the case?
Coach D wrote:
The description seems to imply a track similar to what is presently in place at Hayward Field, and apparently new for the 2010 season. Anybody know if this is the case?
I know it was very expensive, Toms is the AD as well.
I know other people who ran in the ODAC/South are probably telling themselves the same thing, but I'm just thinking, "Damn, Ricky got good." I remember running against him his freshman year, I can't believe he just destroyed the field at nationals yesterday. That sort of performance just brings more attention to the conference which is good, I wish he was that good when I was competing, probably would have motivated me more as well (though I guess he would've kicked my ass haha).
yeah, i was thinking the same thing, and then i realized:
NCAA South/Southeast Regional Championships
11/12/2005
4 Ricky Flynn FR 25:21.9 5:07 Lynchburg College
(National Qualifier)
now i know, 4th overall in the SOUTH!!!!!!!!!! region in 2005 had nobody pissing on themselves that it might be a future champ. heck, going into this PG year, i would've picked him 12 - 25, but, dude was always good.
25:21 at the region meet? Can we end this argument? Kid ain't that good.
25:21. That was his freshman year. Wasn't his hs 3200 pr something like 9:40? I haven't looked it up, but his 5k time from last year was 14 flat or so, wasn't it? Pretty obvious that he was an ok hs kid who trained a lot harder and got a lot better in college. Kind of like Holtschulte from Williams a few years ago.
Sorry kartelite but you were never at this level. But thanks for reminding us that when you were a 5th year senior you beat a raw freshman by a little bit.
Great job Ricky.
driving on the lawn wrote:
Sorry kartelite but you were never at this level. But thanks for reminding us that when you were a 5th year senior you beat a raw freshman by a little bit.
This is why everyone hates Lynchburg.
Nicely put, Kevin. My competitive days are long gone, but as an old fart I enjoy seeing you all training around town and on the trails. LU, LC, Randolph, whatever... you all are inspirational - that's why this town has gone so aerobic over years. My 20 yrs. here have been good, w/ exceptional routes and trails.
driving on the lawn wrote:
Sorry kartelite but you were never at this level. But thanks for reminding us that when you were a 5th year senior you beat a raw freshman by a little bit.
digging your own hole wrote:
This is why everyone hates Lynchburg.
Exactly. And LC won't make it anywhere next year, because they'll be replacing that 1 point with 50+ points at every race.
They don't get to be cocky anymore.
Rivermont, Mr. Peggs and Coach Littleton got it right,
Our sport has never been about trash talking or negativity. If our current LC guys are doing that then unfortunately they are not living up to the tradition, even if they do run well. Class never goes out of style.
I wish all of you, no matter who you run for, injury free miles and much success.
You're here a short time. Cherish your college careers as you will never have another opportunity, with relatively few distractions, to see how good you can be.
Dunno how many of you were actually at nationals (I assume none of these trash-talkers made it) but at the winner's interview the NCAA guy brought up the haters on LetsRun and Ricky said, in an as politically correct as possible way, that you can all go f*** yourselves, and that he's the best. It was AWESOME!!!