Also, the winds did pick up quite a bit last night in Chicago, and it could have been similar in Des Moines.
This calculator translates a 3:48 1500 to a 13:58 5000, which may be a bit too generous, though the 8:11 3000 is exactly what Wintheiser ran at indoor nationals:
Fastnbulbous wrote:
113:I can't say that running a 14:05 should be too disappointing ever, let alone in April. I'll be interested to see splits; Wintheiser almost never goes out hard. This race was the last one of the day, so conditions might have changed, but the high school boys 3200 winner ran sub-9:00 and the high school girls 3k winner was sub-9:30.
Normally I'd agree, but Crain did recently run a 28:52 10,000, which the IAAF scores as 1053 points. Guess what also is good for 1053 pts? A 13:44 5000! Crain has good speed too, having run sub-4:10 mile indoors, and a 3:50 just last week, so he should be more than capable of a sub-13:50.
Wintheiser's 3:48.69 1500 is good for 993 points, which is a 14:02 5000. Given how well he runs XC, he should be better at 5000, which is why I was excited for the possibility of a sub-14 from him.
I think those times are possible, but also a lot to ask for a Thursday night 5k when both guys have been racing pretty regularly. I'm actually more surprised that Crain didn't win than that he didn't break 14:00; he still ran the #10 all-time fastest D3 5k.
Wintheiser's PRs as of three weeks ago were 3:54 and 14:39. It's going to take a little more time to get down close to 14:00.
Ambrose Burfoot (Wesleyan '68) wins the Boston Marathon.
Maybe, but since Wintheiser was 3rd at XC nationals as a sophomore, I think he's had the fitness and ability to run those kind of times a long time ago. He just never had a complete track season before because of injuries. Since he's already run 8:11 and 3:48, I'd say he's in shape for a sub-14 NOW, but does need the right combination of rest, good weather and a well-paced race.
Crain seems to be in incredible shape and the only question is whether he can improve any more. Otherwise he should be able to run sub-14 in a freakin' monsoon.
Don't think there's a thread on D3 graduates done good, but it's worth noting that John Crain placed 12th at the U.S. Marathon Championships in 1:03:21. Very impressive, mixing it up with some big names in U.S. running! Glad to see him still at it.
Men
Pos. Name State Time Diff
1 Estrada, Diego (USA) AZ 1:00:51 +00:00
2 Ward, Jared (USA) UT 1:01:42 +00:51
3 Mecheso, Girma (USA) PA 1:02:16 +01:25
4 Keflezighi, Meb (USA) CA 1:02:18 +01:27
5 Llano, Matthew (USA) AZ 1:02:22 +01:31
6 Rono, Aron (USA) OR 1:02:25 +01:34
7 Eggleston, Jeffrey (USA) CO 1:02:41 +01:50
8 Gotcher, Brett (USA) CA 1:02:49 +01:58
9 Keveren, Sean (USA) VA 1:02:52 +02:01
10 Proctor, Gabe (USA) CA 1:03:13 +02:22
11 Mueller, Tyler (USA) WI 1:03:21 +02:30
12 Crain, John (USA) OK 1:03:21 +02:30
13 Hilton, Nicholas (USA) AZ 1:03:23 +02:32
14 Kremske, Dan (USA) OR 1:03:23 +02:32
15 Payne, Ben (USA) CO 1:03:25 +02:34
16 Richards, Malcolm (USA) CA 1:03:26 +02:35
17 Graves, Griffith (USA) NC 1:03:27 +02:36
18 Molke, Robert (USA) NY 1:03:27 +02:36
19 Finan, Eric (USA) MN 1:03:29 +02:38
20 Curley, Craig (USA) AZ 1:03:31 +02:40
He also ran 28:26.98 at the Payton Jordan Invitational, a nice improvement of his PR by nearly half a minute.
Here are the all-time D3 records for men:
http://cmsathletics.com/ncaa/track/d3tracklist-m.pdf
I got the link at raceberryjam.com
They have a link to the women's list too.
Congrats to Johnny Crain in finishing a respectable 18th in a field of 25 at the USATF Championships 10,000m race, 29:27 in very warm, humid conditions. He was lapped just at the end by Rupp and Ben True, but no shame in that, those are our two best bets at a medal in that event!
Also, due to an amusing USATF snafu in the coverage, they temporarily listed Crain as third place. Here's a screenshot that his friends and family can tease him with:
http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/johnny-crain.jpg
