Turner Ted wrote:
The 2 mile fiasco proves he doesnt have the endurance base - Webby's peak was Paris all downhill from now on guys... in 3 rounds he'll be toast
It proved that he had a bad day, nothing more, idiot!
Turner Ted wrote:
The 2 mile fiasco proves he doesnt have the endurance base - Webby's peak was Paris all downhill from now on guys... in 3 rounds he'll be toast
It proved that he had a bad day, nothing more, idiot!
1 3:26.00 Hicham El Guerrouj
2 3:26.12 Hicham El Guerrouj
3 3:26.34 Bernard Lagat
4 3:26.45 Hicham El Guerrouj
5 3:26.89 Hicham El Guerrouj
6 3:26.96 Hicham El Guerrouj
7 3:27.21 Hicham El Guerrouj
8 3:27.34 Hicham El Guerrouj
9 3:27.37 Noureddine Morceli
10 3:27.40 Bernard Lagat
11 3:27.52 Noureddine Morceli
12 3:27.64 Hicham El Guerrouj
13 3:27.65 Hicham El Guerrouj
14 3:27.91 Bernard Lagat
15 3:28.12 Noah Ngeny
16 3:28.21+ Hicham El Guerrouj
17 3:28.37 Noureddine Morceli
17 3:28.37 Hicham El Guerrouj
19 3:28.38 Hicham El Guerrouj
20 3:28.40 Hicham El Guerrouj
21 3:28.51 Bernard Lagat
22 3:28.57 Hicham El Guerrouj
23 3:28.6+ Noah Ngeny
24 3:28.73 Noah Ngeny
25 3:28.84 Noah Ngeny
26 3:28.86 Noureddine Morceli
27 3:28.91 Hicham El Guerrouj
28 3:28.92 Hicham El Guerrouj
29 3:28.93 Noah Ngeny
30 3:28.95 Fermin Cacho
31 3:28.98 Mehdi Baala
32 3:29.02 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen
33 3:29.05 Hicham El Guerrouj
34 3:29.06 Hicham El Guerrouj
35 3:29.08 Hicham El Guerrouj
36 3:29.12 Hicham El Guerrouj
37 3:29.13 Hicham El Guerrouj
38 3:29.14 Rachid Ramzi
39 3:29.18 Vénuste Niyongabo
39 3:29.18 Hicham El Guerrouj
41 3:29.19 Noah Ngeny
42 3:29.20 Noureddine Morceli
43 3:29.21 Bernard Lagat
44 3:29.27 Hicham El Guerrouj
45 3:29.29 William Chirchir
46 3:29.30 Hicham El Guerrouj
46 3:29.30 Bernard Lagat
48 3:29.43 Vénuste Niyongabo
49 3:29.46 Saïd Aouita
49 3:29.46 Daniel Komen
51 3:29.50 Noureddine Morceli
52 3:29.51 Hicham El Guerrouj
52 3:29.51 Ali Saïdi-Sief
54 3:29.57+ Noureddine Morceli
55 3:29.59 Hicham El Guerrouj
56 3:29.67 Steve Cram
56 3:29.67 Hicham El Guerrouj
58 3:29.68 Bernard Lagat
59 3:29.7+ Hicham El Guerrouj
60 3:29.71 Saïd Aouita
61 3:29.72+ Hicham El Guerrouj
61 3:29.72 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen
63 3:29.76 Hicham El Guerrouj
64 3:29.77 Sydney Maree
64 3:29.77 Sebastian Coe
66 3:29.79 Noah Ngeny
67 3:29.85+ Hicham El Guerrouj
68 3:29.91 Laban Rotich
69 3:29.95 Hicham El Guerrouj
70 3:29.96 Hicham El Guerrouj
71 3:29.99 Noureddine Morceli
71 3:29.99 Noah Ngeny
73 3:30.00 Hicham El Guerrouj
73 3:30.00 Rachid Ramzi
75 3:30.01 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen
76 3:30.04 Timothy Kiptanui
77 3:30.06 Noureddine Morceli
77 3:30.06 Laban Rotich
79 3:30.07 Rui Silva
80 3:30.09 Vénuste Niyongabo
81 3:30.11+ Noureddine Morceli
82 3:30.13 Laban Rotich
83 3:30.15 Steve Cram
84 3:30.18 John Kibowen
85 3:30.2+ Hicham El Guerrouj
86 3:30.22 Hicham El Guerrouj
87 3:30.23 Noureddine Morceli
87 3:30.23 Hicham El Guerrouj
89 3:30.24 Cornelius Chirchir
89 3:30.24 Timothy Kiptanui
91 3:30.25 Rachid Ramzi
92 3:30.27 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen
93 3:30.28 Noah Ngeny
94 3:30.32 Hicham El Guerrouj
95 3:30.33 Ivan Heshko
96 3:30.34 Noah Ngeny
97 3:30.36 John Kibowen
97 3:30.36 Rui Silva
99 3:30.37 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen
100 3:30.39 Bernard Lagat
101 3:30.41 Laban Rotich
102 3:30.42 Noah Ngeny
103 3:30.44 John Kibowen
104 3:30.46 Alex Kipchirchir
105 3:30.47 Vénuste Niyongabo
106 3:30.49 Daniel Komen
106 3:30.49 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen
108 3:30.54 Bernard Lagat
108 3:30.54 Alan Webb
bengt wrote:
Turner Ted wrote:The 2 mile fiasco proves he doesnt have the endurance base - Webby's peak was Paris all downhill from now on guys... in 3 rounds he'll be toast
It proved that he had a bad day, nothing more, idiot!
we shall see pratt
Feris Bodwan wrote:
notamerican wrote:give credit when credit is due
He is arguably the best 1500m/mile runner in the world right now, and just ran a major PR.
To me, he is the best 1500m athlete in the world, and personally, I expect him to medal in Osaka. I would in fact be dissapointed with a bronze. Realistically, Webb is looking at a Gold or Silver.
It seems whenever someone is successful, people become frustrated because of their seemingly jealous or insecure tendencies.
You've got a fairly week argument to make my friend. Did you not read Jim Spivey comments yesterday about peaking at the right time? Its early July. webb has six or seven weeks to go till the Championships. He's got to get through the rounds and then hold his nerve in the final.
Putting a medal around his neck is plain foolish!
I wish Webb all the best but I expect him to struggle in Osaka. BUT I think he'll learn from this year and will feature well in the Olympics next year.
Just because Jim Spivey said it don't make it just. For all we know Spivey could be jealous at all the attention Webb's getting. Don't let his track record blind you from making your own revelations.
Spivey talked about how he PR'd by what 3-4 seconds when he ran 3:31 so his PR was generally 3:34-3:35 at the time. Webb only PR'd by 2 seconds and not only that but the shape he was in last year he probably could've ran 3:31 by the end of last year's season. This time he ran is some what past due as he probably could've ran really close to it last year. Spivey had a one hit wonder phenomenal time so you couldn't really expect him anyways to improve much after that. But look at Webb, does it seem like this is a one hit wonder type deal? Far from it. He will run faster, accept that. Just because Spivey said don't make it legit. So hop off the dick and get a backbone.
The point here is not that Webb is the greatest miler of all time, it's that we American distance running fans have suffered for so long that we're like Boston Red Sox fans were until a few years ago, continually waiting for the drought to end, for someone to come along and restore some pride to American distance running. Since Webb ran 3:53 in high school in 2001, he has carried a lot of those hopes on his shoulders. To see him finally break through and establish himself as a legitimate medal contender at a major meet is very exciting for all of us.
Why is it so hard on you wannabees when an American runner does well? He ran 3:30, so what? Lessee you do it! Wishing him well and being happy for him is just good ole American way. It is so easy to see your insecurity in your post. He is still young, the 3rd fastest American ever, and its immaterial what Kenyans have done. We are slowly pulling them back at every distance. Lighten up girl!
See:
Only 17 runners in history have ever broken 3:30.00 per IAAF's All-Time List. 6 were from Kenya, and 2 each from GBR, MAR and ALG. Webb's time was the fastest by an American born runner. So I think it is a fairly big deal.
Couple that with Ryan Hall's recent London Marathon Performance and it appears that American male distance runners might still be able to compete with the best in the world. There are also some promising young athletes with the AJR and Collegiate 10K records (men and women) recently broken. What we need now is some American to run 12:50 in the 5K or 26:50 in the 10K and be competitive with the world's best at those distances.
38 of the top 100 times are by Hicham El Guerrouj (though some are conversions, and the world-record mile conversion doesn't seem to be on there.) Wow. It's amazing how great he was.
Dr Z Beleke wrote:
why is everybody soo hyped with Webbs 3.30 ???? He won, yes, he ran 3.30, yes, so what ?? Is that the end of his running ?? I mean came on America, This is not World Championships or Olympics, Lets waits till the guy performs at the end of summer, then we can give him credit. Alot of kenyans have run soo many 3.30s , and this is just but the beginning. Everything on letsrun is just Web, Web,Web, Forget !!!!!!
And what's so hyped with Bekele's 26:17??? My God, he had pacemakers and perfect weather. Look at him now, acting like a small child because he could not deal with the heat and humidity in Kenya at the cross country race.
I am making a joke here....
Alan Webb is obviously not setting World Records, but he did win a major race, and we have every right to celebrate a major win for one of our countrymen.
when was the last time you got to watch an american win a world class distance race live (on the internet) in front of 50,000 people? and silence the crowd? ever?
You just jelouse because webb's goin have a building named after him, possibly National holiday.
Dr Z Beleke wrote:
why is everybody soo hyped with Webbs 3.30 ???? He won, yes, he ran 3.30, yes, so what ?? Is that the end of his running ?? I mean came on America, This is not World Championships or Olympics, Lets waits till the guy performs at the end of summer, then we can give him credit. Alot of kenyans have run soo many 3.30s , and this is just but the beginning. Everything on letsrun is just Web, Web,Web, Forget !!!!!!
This is the biggest American miling accomplishemt since Joe Falcon won the Dream Mile in 1990 in 3:49.
The last American World title was 1908 and Webb is still unlikely to get that.
So we have to savour what we can.
SO WHAT!!! I CANT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID "SO WHAT" Alan Webb is only 24 yrs old! He's doing things not even Steve Prefontaine ever did. Think about that. Not since The Great Jim Ryun have we had something to get excited about. Maybe Steve Scott, but he never carried that exciting ora that Alan is carrying. This is HUGE for all running fans. Especially for high school kids. Alan Webb still has 3 yrs before he even peaks as a runner. By the end of his career he will hold every American Born running record from 800 to the 10K! He's the Tiger Woods of American middle distance running right now.
whatever man wrote:
In five years Alan Webb will run 3:25. That's why.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Thanks. You made my day there.
:)
notamerican wrote:
He is arguably the best 1500m/mile runner in the world right now...To me, he is the best 1500m athlete in the world
Dear god, what is WRONG with you?
Millstown Grollly wrote:
Webb will be the fastest Anglo-American miler since Cram and Coe. Maybe the glory days of Coe and Cram will now be repeated in the US a quarter century later.
Well, that's exciting. The fastest ANGLO-American! Who is the fastest Italian American? Spanish? Zzzzzz.....
Turner Ted wrote:
The 2 mile fiasco proves he doesnt have the endurance base - Webby's peak was Paris all downhill from now on guys... in 3 rounds he'll be toast
Probs. Too much of a head case to keep it together through the rounds. I say he does 3:29 in semis and 3:34 in the final after getting boxed in during a tactical race.
toro wrote:
This is the biggest American miling accomplishemt since Joe Falcon won the Dream Mile in 1990 in 3:49.
Oh, wow. It's that bleak, is it?
Seriously, Hall's debut this year was far more impressive.
I wonder why ELG retired so early?
"Webb will be the fastest Anglo American miler...." Why do you have to bring up race idiot? Just say American