well if you'r a master's runner, then you would truly understand or appreciate those jaw dropping times...
well if you'r a master's runner, then you would truly understand or appreciate those jaw dropping times...
So he lived in NE in 1996 and was a 4 hour marathoner? Another telling thing about the finish photo is that he is looking down in shame, wearing a hat, and his jacket may obscure his number?
In any case, maybe he cheated on his wife while living in NE and was busted for it. She stayed in NE and he went to GA.
Wow, this man is fascinating. He might convince himself that all his "course planning" is part of a smart race strategy. He certainly puts a lot of effort into it.
When you look at his picture at the finish in Chicago, he seems truly happy, even though he doesn't look the part. He finishes fresh in pants and jacket among fit, sweaty runners, as if he had just gotten off a cab.
In 2002, at 50, his half time was 1:53:51.
MERCEDES MARATHON & HALF MARATHON
BIRMINGHAM, AL - FEBRUARY 10, 2002
AGE GROUP RESULTS - HALF MARATHON
23 WILLIAM JURENA 50 DULUTH GA 1:53:51 8:42 5691
Then his half-marathon time drops to 1:26 as he gets past 50.
Something must have happened to him in 2003. Perhaps a divorce, a money loss, a problem at work? For some reasons, he decided to take action.
Or just the fear of getting old? His "exploits" started at he entered his second half-century.
He's running New York--I'll be looking for his purple jacket. He might be a very nice man, just lost and delusional.
This guy is simply shameful. He must have learned his skills as one of "Jean's Marines." I hope someone at NYRR is paying attention to this thread and keeps their eyes on this character.
as a point of comparison, those in his AG who beat him:
And there are MANY more photos of them than cheater bill.
Well, as I noted, NYRR still lists him as a 2005 finisher, despite missing the 20 mile split. Perhaps they have reviewed the checkpoint video and he appears?
Don't know.
Also, *he* actually started this thread and detailed his time-splits for all of us to see...how strange.
He wants to get caught, perhaps?
I envision that he either has a room in his house or perhaps his office at work decorated with all of his finishers medals, trophies, marathon posters, etc. He must be trying to impress neighbors or workmates with his running prowess. He's not cheating for money, so why else would he do it? It really is pretty disturbing. He is spending a lot of money on travel and entry fees just to cheat.
I love to see the cheaters ratted out...We had a lady at a local charity race who "allegedly" won the 5K. chip time said 18:55ish...
Ok...I'm no speedster, but this lady was wearing sketcher shoes, no watch, and really long sweat pants....She claimed it was the first race she had ever run and was just out for a jog....Now...what 18 minute 5K runner doesn't keep track of split times....What 5K runner, runs the course in Sketchers....did they just release a shoe contract that I didn't see....They have a set of racing flats out there....
To add to the story, the 2nd place overal female questioned her...She didn't see a single female runner in front of her....none of the men in the 18-20 range saw this lady....so when they went to look for her bib in the stack, they found it in the 55 minute range between two of the 10K bibs....
She had the nerve to ask if she could keep the winners prize. bwahahahahahah...
he prob didn't originate the post--why would he?
Assuming he cut the course, then to help support his claim to have actually run this?
There is a certain logic where you want to construct the artifice and really "live the lie". I mean, what better fun that to come onto a huge runner's message board and yuk it up with the real runners?
Problem is if you really f**K up your alibi and say you "got tired 30k thru 35k", I have no idea how the hell you end up "running" a 29:14 5k.
minimally lame wrote:
he prob didn't originate the post--why would he?
I think the guy is kidding, but I cannot believe this.
I LOVE LETSRUN!!!
Where else can you get this kind of f**king drama on a daily basis?
Please, someone from Hotlanta check into this.
He did not originate the post. I did.
Considering that I killed myself to run 3:07 in Chicago -- and ran 3:13 instead -- I find myself taking this personally. Funny, I'm not normally that sensitive . . .
Also, when I checked into my hotel in Chicago, I saw a weekend agenda for Jean's Marines. Apparently, they were staying there. Unable to help ourselves, my wife and I snuck into their prerace meal. They were done eating, and some dude was reading a kind of marathon prayer as the women (maybe 50 of them?) sat around tables with their eyes closed. (i.e. "At mile 22, I think about the many miles of training . . " etc.)
We were going to lunch at 2:45 on raceday when several of them came staggering in. My wife said hi to one, who must have recently finished, and she just shivered in her mylar blanket and stared into space.
Someone from ATL should send these various threads to the reporter at the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Nothing better than outing the cheater in his hometown to neighbors, friends, family, and coworkers.
Here are his 20k to half to 25k splits:
20.0k 1:23:20
21.1k 1:29:05 _5:45 (= 8:34 pace, no way to cut course.
25.0k 1:47:28 18:23 (= 7:36 pace, yes- can cut course before turnaround)
And the 16:59 from 25 to 30k is explained if you cut straight between these 2 mats on Ashland Avenue, you only have to run/walk 1.5 miles.
What does ananlize mean?
I looked at old Peachtree results, looks like I finished four seconds ahead of him one year when I was conducting my annual butchering of this race.
o.k before this thread dies. i've got to say i bet he'll bust one wide open at NY....
i say 2:59
I think he meant that he wanted to be "analized."