Man I hear you 100% but I don't think anybody really wants to keep poor people poor. The incumbancy rate is like 98% right now anyways. Republicans sorta do the same thing, I mean they want to keep the rich people rich cause thats who supports their campaigns. Its all part of OUR political climent, which is screwed up here in the states. Our politicians are supposed to represent us, and instead all they represent is getting re-elected.
Actually there is a hell of alot of rich people behind the democratic party. dont be fooled into thinking the rich only support the gop. As a matter of fact 9 of the richest senators in govt are dems. Air America, Moveon and many of the big dem groups are funded by very wealthy people.
They love to play the class card as well as any other card they can think of that is how they thrive. You ever see a poor democrat in the senate or congress? Thery are as wealthy as the gop.
I think you misunderstood me. What I was saying is that the democrats voting base is primarly the lowerclass people, where as the republicans are mostly upper class. All national politicians are rich, how else do you think they can run for office?
george sorios wrote:
Actually there is a hell of alot of rich people behind the democratic party. dont be fooled into thinking the rich only support the gop. As a matter of fact 9 of the richest senators in govt are dems. Air America, Moveon and many of the big dem groups are funded by very wealthy people.
They love to play the class card as well as any other card they can think of that is how they thrive. You ever see a poor democrat in the senate or congress? Thery are as wealthy as the gop.
I LOVE IT! So according to you, just as many rich people support Dems as Repubs, and according to little Tex and others, all the poor on welfare support Dems, and accoring to another person, virtually all criminals support the Dems. Now of course there is some overlap there, but according to you dimwits and your "stats", the Dems should win every election hands down. Think about it, we've got TONS of rich people on our side and virtually ALL the poor and criminals, not to mention the illegal immigrants who are, I am sure, voting in hordes. Hmmm, I guess the Republican party is the party of the middle class!! (NOT!). See something wrong with your stats guys??? (try using that education you received in your trailer park. I'll give you a hint: if you really think that poor white trash who live off welfare in the south and midwest, and watch NASCAR and do meth every weekend, or the poor Religious zealots of the Bible Belt are voting predominately Democrats , you are out of your mind. Rethink your "all poor criminals" vote Democratic concept)
BigTex wrote:
That's why I'm not talking about the folks I see on TV. I live in an area where I see it all first hand. Are you one of those New Englanders who's only experience with minorities and poor people is what you see on TV?
The most recent statitics I saw put blacks at just over 40% of welfare recipients even though they only make up 12% of the population. Whites were 36% yet make up 77% percent of the population.
Liberals will continue to deny the facts because it's bad business for them. Who else is going to vote for you when you have no purpose but to hate the Republican party. When you have nothing else to stand for, it's easier to go say to a bunch of uneducated people in New Orleans that President Bush caused the hurricane and blew up your levy so you would all be stuck here.
i'm happy to see that you are now posting legitimate statistics. around 40% of TANF recipients being black strikes me as fairly accurate, based on the numbers i saw years ago.
and yes, i live in an area that is majority african-american. my high school, over 65% african-american.
and please stop repeating talking points from Fox news. it makes you look stupid.
If I want to know what's best for black people, I should probably ask the black voters themselves...seen as they are probably more experienced at being black Americans than anyone else in the world. What did they say? In 2004, 11% voted for Bush. Here's a link to prove it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_naacp
Or do you white guys from the south know better than the blacks what is good for them?
Actually I think you are confusing different things. You are correct many southern white trailer park people who watch nascar do vote gop. As do many rich people. Also many blue coller former dems Who see the party being hijacked by the far left extrmists. like Dean pelosi, NOW, code pink and other groups who love to blame america for everything that is wrong in the world.
It is also true that most convicted felons vote dem there has been more then one survey done on this subject. You might not like the fact that crimminals tend to find something incommon with dems and are drawn to the party,but thats just the way it is. Sorry Maybe if your party didnt coddle crimminals so much they would stop voting for dems.
There is also quite a few blue state rich people Manhatten one of the richest areas in the country votes almost exclusively dem as does Mass another affluent state. As a matter of fact many of the richest per capita areas of the country vote dem. So please dont try and come off saying the dems are the party of the poor and working class. Ever been to hollywood Nothing but rich ,narcisstic, wastefull democrats.
new englander wrote:
If I want to know what's best for black people, I should probably ask the black voters themselves...seen as they are probably more experienced at being black Americans than anyone else in the world. What did they say? In 2004, 11% voted for Bush. Here's a link to prove it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_naacpOr do you white guys from the south know better than the blacks what is good for them?
But see thats the problem with this whole situation. What was the voter turnout for blacks? You can complain and shit all you want but if you don't turn out its not like you did anything to change the situation.
If all of the black people new what was best for them, I imagine they would think for themselves rather than line up and vote this way because the good "Reverend" Jesse Jackson tells them they should. Those crazy religious zealots.
I also imagine if they all knew what was best, they would find a way out of poverty. But the Democratic party is able to convince them that welfare is their best option and it's better if they just stay poor and continue to line up and vote like their told. It's a new kind of slavery.
As a man of color it sounds as if you are really concerned with our needs. It makes me laugh.
I don't remember repeating anything from Fox News. If you are referring to the New Orleans situation, that all came straight from the mouths of New Orleans evacuees. I heard it first hand.
Believe it or not, I was here in Texas helping the evacuees get back on their feet while they were here. Don't mistake my critical posts for being heartless or racist. I am neither, but I will not stand by and ignore the truth. I mentor many minority students and athletes. I don't preach politics to them but rather teach them to be self sufficient. I talk to them about the value of education and breaking the cycle of poverty they may be in. I talk to them about not leaving children fatherless with single mothers like many of them have experienced.
And I still stand by my original statement that no one can dispute...if all minorities in Texas were to migrate to New Hampshire, Texas would be in the top 5 and would still vote Republican.
Colorado wrote:
I think it's easy to see why some of the smaller states are up there...less people skew could be more to the smart side. Then CA is up there and blows my theroy. Which is hard to believe Cali has to have lot's of dumb people hard to believe they don't pull the average down more.
The theory still holds water because you can't not count California. Yes trueit is a larger state but consider the number of illegal mexican kids that don't even speak english, much less take college entrance exams. The inner city blacks of course of which the urban areas are filled with, will also skew those results. They know and care nothing about college.
The bottom line is that I am prod to be in Oregon. We are a great state with great education facualties!
R.D. in Portland wrote:
The bottom line is that I am prod to be in Oregon. We are a great state with great education facualties!
...is this a joke?