If you don't listen to the State, and don't see the Government as having ultimate authority over your life, family, children, with absolute immunity, you ain't American. This isn't about the economy or "rights". No. We need the Government to police us as much as possible, on the condition that not complying results in execution. This is what conservatives want.
False. You are a lying disgruntled liberal, congrats and sorry about the big loss just over a year ago.
Name all of the people who haven't complied and were executed. Exactly, you are a wimpy little liar.
Laken Riley's death did nothing to your sick evil heart and she was 100 percent innocent and of course, not your daughter.
Cry harder, your girl lost the election and you still lose sleep over it. Coward
Notice how defensive you got, to the point of not even responding to the original thought I had.
Are you not pro police-state? You believe the government should be able to detain you outside your house with immunity correct, regardless of your citizenship or whether or not a crime is being committed, correct? You also believe they should have zero checks / have absolute immunity over their actions, correct? Also, any crime, regardless of lethality (lets say, a traffic violation, warrants an execution, correct?
Explain to me why you don't believe this. Do not deviate from the question like a politician.
One left wing fools opinion doesn't change reality...There will be no charges...She hit him with a deadly weapon, her car.
A car isn't a deadly weapon - except perhaps with someone like you behind the wheel. It is a mode of transport. There is nothing that shows she was trying to kill him. She even said as such, that she intended him no harm, before he chose to shoot her in the face. That was the deadly weapon.
the moranity lies deep in this one, especially since he has previously lied about being a lawyer.
A car isn't a deadly weapon - except perhaps with someone like you behind the wheel. It is a mode of transport. There is nothing that shows she was trying to kill him. She even said as such, that she intended him no harm, before he chose to shoot her in the face. That was the deadly weapon.
the moranity lies deep in this one, especially since he has previously lied about being a lawyer.
zero credibility
He HAS to wish he could take that back.
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If she hadn't illegally parked sideways in the street, she'd be alive today.
If she had moved her car when told to do so, she'd be alive today.
Had she gotten out of the car when told to do so when surrounded by ICE agents with guns! She'd be alive today.
Had she not attempted to drive away, she'd be alive today.
On the other side, the agent aproaching the car ordering her to get out did not use proper procedure.
The agent in front of the car lost situational awareness. It's one of the things taught in basic armed self defense classes. I think he was more concerned about filming the confrontation. NOTE: There's a name for this. It's called cognitive tunneling... "Often discussed in aviation, driving, and emergency response when operators become locked onto instruments or one task and lose broader situational awareness."
I'm a conservative. I support ICE. This woman was wrong. She made bad decisions to take illegal actions. Her wife made a horrifically bad decision in shouting, "Drive! Drive! Drive!"
Still, I've seen every camera angle released so far. I've attended multiple armed self-defense classes. I don't think that was a justified use of deadly force. I don't know if a jury would convict him, but he wouldn't want me on the jury.
tl;dr The far left behind-the-scenes powers are celebrating today because they finally agitated one of their useful idiots enough to provoke ICE agents enough to get themselves killed, so now they have their martyr to escalate their violence.
If Trump wasn't president she would be alive today.
By that logic, every murder committed by an illegal wouldn't have happened if biden wasnt president. Blood is on his hands for the open borders that allowed 10s of millions of illegals to simply walk into our country and murder our citizens.
I respectively interject that it is NOT black or white that she intentionally hit him. She tried to escape the situation once the black masked officer arrived and put his hand inside the vehicle and her girlfriend told her to leave. The officer who shot her was moving across the front of the vehicle and was almost past it at that moment. If she really wanted to hit him, she would have hit the gas a couple of seconds earlier.
If you accelerate with a person in front of your car, that's intentional.
Correct.
She either intentionally tried to kill him or was the world's worst driver.
Why are you lying? She reversed until she oriented the agent to the front of her vehicle, then floored it driving straight, striking the agent. He was caught off guard, because he didn't expect her to drive straight into him. Her wife told her to drive, not a federal agent. This is all quite clear to anyone who watches the video. It's a shame she decided to use deadly force against another person, which lead to an appropriate self defense response. She was looking straight at him as she sped into him, it can be seen in the video. You should never initiate an attack against another person. It's tragic that things have gotten this volatile, people need to stop instigating violence. If they can't do that, they should really stop pretending to care. We can all tell you really don't mean it. Certain people wanted this to happen so they could pretend to care, that's why they advocate for others to do things that raise tensions and create dangerous and chaotic situations for everyone. Stop being so blatantly dishonest. Nothing you say will be taken seriously. Just stop already, or this will keep getting worse. Take some actual accountibility and stop encouraging all these suicidal actions, that involve consequences that you want to blame others for.
I think the shooting was by far an over reaction. Need better ICE training or simplify the strategy of only going after violent offenders.
Biggest concern is Iran and recent Venezuela. there are major shifts in geopolitics occurring right now, and people are more concerned about this one tragic event from dumb ICE and dumb lady. Throw Greenland rhetoric into the media and that further boils, the temperature of relations in the Middle East. China and Russia were just about to have an ally in Venezuela right in our hemisphere. And now they may be losing a major ally in the Middle East if they can’t hold onto Iran. I’m surprised Russia and China aren’t making moves against Taiwan right now and I am concerned that they will not let Iran fall easily.
25 year federal firearms instructor tears apart ICE agents actions on CBS news story. CBS pulls it from the nightly new because Larry Ellison wants to turn CBS into Newsmax.
it sets up incorrect strawmen and then dismantles them - so what if the strawman is invented?
eg; you cant use deadly force to stop someone fleeing.
well, a) you can, b) he didnt. (incorrect strawman). he used deadly force because he was being assaulted with a deadly weapon.
eg; you shouldnt be in front of the car.
well, we can all agree this, except a) it is ridiculous to suggest a leo can never walk in front of, and by extension due to reverse gears, behind a vehicle (and note this vehicles first relevant movement was in reverse!!!!). b) the commentator even admits that the shooter was in front of the vehicle for the legitimate reason of collecting evidence on his camera phone.
eg 'the tyres were pointing away from him'.
a) when someone is directly in front of a vehicle such that the vehicle is likely to hit him no matter where oyu are steering, what the hell has the position of the tyres got to do with it? 'i was steering away when i hit the object in front of me'? what sort of an excuse is that?
b) incorrect strawman; if you watch the slow mo video, you can see that when the tyres first spin as she accelerates in fwd gear, the tyre is pointing LEFT.
what an absolute piece of garbage.
Indeed.
That 25 year federal officer is part of the Deep State.
St Peter; Morning, blimey love, someones done a number on your visog. dinna fash yesen, we'll get you into make up first thing. now whats your claim for entry?
(not) Good person; i was minding my own business when some crazy murdered me.
St P; Not what ive got written down. My list says you were a trained agitator deliberately trying to obstruct legitimate government agents. You disobeyed the lawful commands of one officer, resisted arrest and then assaulted another with a deadly weapon. you're right up shoots creek babe, innit?
Good; But my wheels were pointing right!!!
St P. What has that got to do with the fact you had a government agent in front of your car, changed gear from reverse into fwd and then hit the government agent with you car? And in any case your wheels were pointing left when you first accelerated fwd at the officer.
Good; But im a lesbian.
St P; what has that got to do with it, and not until recently you werent.
Good; But im a poet, waaaaaah.
St P. Not according to Robin Williams you arent, and he's the expert. First left, down the apples and pears, keep going, and there is no facial reconstructive surgery down there.
Good; its a fair cop, guv.
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If you accelerate with a person in front of your car, that's intentional.
Correct.
She either intentionally tried to kill him or was the world's worst driver.
Either way, roads are safer since Wednesday.
Please explain how she would have turned the wheel differently, both when going in reverse and then when she put the car in drive before she accelerated, if she had instead intended to escape by driving to the right of him (her right, his left).
It’s a deceptive tactic used by the media. They find one so-called expert and act like he’s the final word. You could probably find 20 guys with the exact opposite opinion.
Not surprisingly, Roy bought it hook line and sinker.
And he probably got paid to offer his "expert" opinion.
I don't trust expert testimony in court for the same reason.
Please explain how she would have turned the wheel differently, both when going in reverse and then when she put the car in drive before she accelerated, if she had instead intended to escape by driving to the right of him (her right, his left).
Because I don’t see an option for her to attempt to clear him any stronger than full steering wheel left/counterclockwise in reverse and full steering wheel right/clockwise before accelerating. The video also shows the front of the car swinging sharply left from the officer’s view before the image blurs, as opposed to a head-on maneuver, which is what I’d associate with intentionally trying to harm him.
She either intentionally tried to kill him or was the world's worst driver.
Either way, roads are safer since Wednesday.
Please explain how she would have turned the wheel differently, both when going in reverse and then when she put the car in drive before she accelerated, if she had instead intended to escape by driving to the right of him (her right, his left).
Umm... lets see here.
Maybe, just maybe, I'm, I'm just spitballing here ... when she saw a live human being in front of her path of travel, she could have hit the effin' brakes?
Why are you lying? She reversed until she oriented the agent to the front of her vehicle, then floored it driving straight, striking the agent. He was caught off guard, because he didn't expect her to drive straight into him. Her wife told her to drive, not a federal agent. This is all quite clear to anyone who watches the video. It's a shame she decided to use deadly force against another person, which lead to an appropriate self defense response. She was looking straight at him as she sped into him, it can be seen in the video. You should never initiate an attack against another person. It's tragic that things have gotten this volatile, people need to stop instigating violence. If they can't do that, they should really stop pretending to care. We can all tell you really don't mean it. Certain people wanted this to happen so they could pretend to care, that's why they advocate for others to do things that raise tensions and create dangerous and chaotic situations for everyone. Stop being so blatantly dishonest. Nothing you say will be taken seriously. Just stop already, or this will keep getting worse. Take some actual accountibility and stop encouraging all these suicidal actions, that involve consequences that you want to blame others for.
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