Yessiree Bob wrote:
DanM wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/nyregion/nyc-vaccine-mandate.htmlUh, check the dates on those articles. Nice try, dickus.
Can you imagine actually believing only 34 NYC cops refuse to vaxx!
Yessiree Bob wrote:
DanM wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/nyregion/nyc-vaccine-mandate.htmlUh, check the dates on those articles. Nice try, dickus.
Can you imagine actually believing only 34 NYC cops refuse to vaxx!
jewbiden wrote:
How is my "handle" antisemitic? I'm just honoring Joe's cabinet which is overwhelmingly Jewish. I'm sorry the truth hurts your feelings.
Only his chief of staff, Attorney General, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of State, Secretary of Homeland Security, Director of the CDC, and dozens of lesser posts.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Harambe wrote:
We wouldn't need mandates if enough people had made the correct decision to get shots earlier.
Instead we had hospitals full of antivaxxers and innocent Americans being denied care due to their choices. Sorry, your rights end when your choices start to kill innocent people.
The vaccine is low cost, very safe, and very effective.
Who died and made you boss?
Why do you get to choose where other people's rights end?
How can you prove that a specific person killed another person?
You say "when your choices start to kill innocent people..." as if it were as clear as a drunk driving case.
How do you know that the person who died of covid (and who had no comorbidities) didnt get it from a vaccinated person?
Are you claiming that 0% of vaccinated people have spread covid to other people and that some of those people ended up dying as a result?
You are missing the point -- this is not at all what I said.
When the unvaccinated filled hospitals so much that innocent Americans could not get emergency care -- and died because of that -- that is when mandates became necessary.
This is very black and white. We have a segment of the population (the unvaccinated) that ignored common sense, consumed a dangerously high level of emergency services and endangered (or outright killed) their fellow Americans. All of this could have been prevented had enough of them taken the safe and effective vaccine.
An acceptable alternative solution to vaccine mandates is to make it legal for emergency medical providers to kick unvaccinated covid cases out of the hospitals to make room for others.
Take your choice! But, what is not acceptable is to allow people to remain unvaccinated and get equal access to medical resources when they are scarce.
Abbot and Costello wrote:
How is this idiotic thread still active?
Because it's 100% true and all the denier-fearmongers in here cannot prove otherwise.
colder and wiser wrote:
So let's just call it the "anti-Harambe side." As a prominent representative of the "anti-Harambe" side, do you see anything wrong with using straight-up anti-Semitic slurs? Does it worry you that no one at all on the "anti-Harambe side" seems to be offended by undiluted anti-Semitism? Because frankly, it's got me pretty freaked out, like one day you object to being required to get a shot that may not be a huge deal for you, and the next day you're humming along to the Host Wessel Lied.
A key issue is that fringe groups necessarily need to band together to form a large enough bloc to be heard. These anti-vaxxers are basically forced to tolerate the Nazi wackos that align with them on vaccines, otherwise both groups would be far quieter.
For rational people it's obvious that you're on the wrong side when you have to tolerate open Nazis in your tent but clearly the anti-vaxxers aren't rational (or they would be pro-vax!)
Harambe wrote:
A key issue is that fringe groups necessarily need to band together to form a large enough bloc to be heard. These anti-vaxxers are basically forced to tolerate the Nazi wackos that align with them on vaccines, otherwise both groups would be far quieter.
For rational people it's obvious that you're on the wrong side when you have to tolerate open Nazis in your tent but clearly the anti-vaxxers aren't rational (or they would be pro-vax!)
Yup. Don't forget these anti-vaxxers are also sharing space with flat-earthers too. When you look around the room and the people you are holding hands with are flat-earthers and Nazi-defenders, that should tell you that you are in the wrong room.
Harambe wrote:
Take your choice! But, what is not acceptable is to allow people to remain unvaccinated and get equal access to medical resources when they are scarce.
A significant portion of Americans agree with this.
The Clown Show wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Take your choice! But, what is not acceptable is to allow people to remain unvaccinated and get equal access to medical resources when they are scarce.
A significant portion of Americans agree with this.
Individualism is dead then. The weirdo want some odd form of collectivism that only benefits them...
jewbiden wrote:
Harambe wrote:
A key issue is that fringe groups necessarily need to band together to form a large enough bloc to be heard. These anti-vaxxers are basically forced to tolerate the Nazi wackos that align with them on vaccines, otherwise both groups would be far quieter.
For rational people it's obvious that you're on the wrong side when you have to tolerate open Nazis in your tent but clearly the anti-vaxxers aren't rational (or they would be pro-vax!)
Kind of like you having to support people that hate whites. That's different though, right?
Nice to see the mask coming off. Only took... 3 posts?
Harambe wrote:
Abbot and Costello wrote:
How is this idiotic thread still active?
Because it's 100% true and all the denier-fearmongers in here cannot prove otherwise.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No
Abbot and Costello wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Because it's 100% true and all the denier-fearmongers in here cannot prove otherwise.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No
Compelling
"The police department, which employs about 36,000 officers and 19,000 civilian employees, reported an 84% vaccination rate as of Sunday evening"
Harambe wrote:
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Who died and made you boss?
Why do you get to choose where other people's rights end?
How can you prove that a specific person killed another person?
You say "when your choices start to kill innocent people..." as if it were as clear as a drunk driving case.
How do you know that the person who died of covid (and who had no comorbidities) didnt get it from a vaccinated person?
Are you claiming that 0% of vaccinated people have spread covid to other people and that some of those people ended up dying as a result?
You are missing the point -- this is not at all what I said.
When the unvaccinated filled hospitals so much that innocent Americans could not get emergency care -- and died because of that -- that is when mandates became necessary.
This is very black and white. We have a segment of the population (the unvaccinated) that ignored common sense, consumed a dangerously high level of emergency services and endangered (or outright killed) their fellow Americans. All of this could have been prevented had enough of them taken the safe and effective vaccine.
An acceptable alternative solution to vaccine mandates is to make it legal for emergency medical providers to kick unvaccinated covid cases out of the hospitals to make room for others.
Take your choice! But, what is not acceptable is to allow people to remain unvaccinated and get equal access to medical resources when they are scarce.
I don't know man, if you can't prove that an individual, specific person killed someone else by choosing to stay healthy and not get vaccinated, then you can't deny them medical care.
Medical care triage should be based on need not on spur-of-the-moment moral judgements.
If we follow your logic, then people who smoke, or have become fat because of consecutive poor choices, then we should deny them medical care. And since there are a lot of disgusting fat people crowding our healthcare system, we can safely deny them care in favor or more respectable and noble citizens such as yourself. That is, if we follow your logic.
It is actually illegal to deny care to people in an emergency situation. Illegal aliens take advantage of this all the time. (By the way, honest question: in your view, if an unvaccinated illegal immigrant needs to go to the emergency room because they are dying of covid, would you deny them care? Should we deny them care? What about unvaccinated people living in America who speak english as a second language and can barely understand whats going on right now and have to go to the emergency room?)
Since you seem to have all the answers, would love to hear how your authoritarian system of determining who gets medical care and who doesn't plays out.
Harambe wrote:
Abbot and Costello wrote:
How is this idiotic thread still active?
Because it's 100% true and all the denier-fearmongers in here cannot prove otherwise.
We must follow Ministry of Truth orders.
The denier-fearmongers must be sent to the Ministry of Love for instruction.
2600 bro wrote:
Abbot and Costello wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No
Compelling
Like your use of different handles to support your points of view.
bbn wrote:
Harambe wrote:
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I'm just making sure we blame the right morons for this current wave and deaths thereof.
Excellent point. Black people are the least vaccinated group and I'm glad you're letting us know you think black people are morons.
Talk about twisting someone's words to fit your liberal agenda. The truth is, no matter the demographic, the unvaccinated are ruining the situation for the vaccinated. Imagine if 99% got the vaccination. We would not be required to follow so many protocols.
mofarah494 wrote:
bbn wrote:
[quote]Harambe wrote:
[quote]
I'm just making sure we blame the right morons for this current wave and deaths thereof.
Excellent point. Black people are the least vaccinated group and I'm glad you're letting us know you think black people are morons.
Talk about twisting someone's words to fit your liberal agenda. The truth is, no matter the demographic, the unvaccinated are ruining the situation for the vaccinated.
How? The vaccinated are safe right?
If I am unwilling to get vaccinated but I qualified for Boston is it OK for me to buy a Boston Marathon jacket? Do I have to leave a backpack at my house because they may think I am psychopath?
Herman Cain turd (haha yo super serial) wrote:
If I am unwilling to get vaccinated but I qualified for Boston is it OK for me to buy a Boston Marathon jacket? Do I have to leave a backpack at my house because they may think I am psychopath?
You are a psychopath.
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