"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Ivyguy wrote:

A useful article with some nuance (from the NYTimes?):

>>While every age group had similar rates of breakthrough cases, death rates varied more drastically by age. Unvaccinated seniors were the most likely to die from Covid of any group. Still, vaccinated people 80 and older had higher death rates than unvaccinated people under 50.

>>“Age is our top risk factor for vaccine breakthrough deaths,” said Theresa Sokol, the state epidemiologist in Louisiana . . . .<<

However:

>>All vaccinated age groups saw similar rates of breakthrough infection, and they all had much lower rates of infection and death compared with their unvaccinated peers.<<

[All emphases mine.]

Anyway, well worth a look IMO. Some really helpful graphs/charts.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/10/28/us/covid-breakthrough-cases.html

This is old news bro, keep up lol

Ivyguy wrote:

A useful article with some nuance (from the NYTimes?):

>>While every age group had similar rates of breakthrough cases, death rates varied more drastically by age. Unvaccinated seniors were the most likely to die from Covid of any group. Still, vaccinated people 80 and older had higher death rates than unvaccinated people under 50.

>>“Age is our top risk factor for vaccine breakthrough deaths,” said Theresa Sokol, the state epidemiologist in Louisiana . . . .<<

However:

>>All vaccinated age groups saw similar rates of breakthrough infection, and they all had much lower rates of infection and death compared with their unvaccinated peers.<<

[All emphases mine.]

Anyway, well worth a look IMO. Some really helpful graphs/charts.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/10/28/us/covid-breakthrough-cases.html

But an article with very telling information for sure

Harambe wrote:

546tyg wrote:

I thought that according to you it's those antivaxxers who are dying. Guess you are not that smart. Sad!

Spreading antivaxx propaganda to people susceptible to it... is bad and likely contributes to very costly mistakes.

So is it "confirmed" or "likely contributes to very costly mistakes"? We love how your argument gets weaker when called out by a witty one-liner.

Harambeaten

Risks of myocarditis are higher among young compared to a covid infection.

Thats why people play the odds.

It doesnt make sense to you because you are a stupid pro covid vaxer.

You do NOT know 100% what the long term effects of covid are. Stop making that claim.

Harambe wrote:

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Negative...the pandemic of the unhealthy continues (FTFY).

This is a pandemic of the unhealthy - always was & always will be. We would be DONE with COVID if not for the unhealthy.

Quit being so intellectually dishonest Harambe....you make a fool of yourself.

So even saying all these unhealthy peoples' lives were worth nothing, we still would have ~250k excess deaths since March 2020 = more than nearly every war in US history.

You care not one bit for your fellow Americans, this is all that's clear.

And you dont care about Americans either. How old are you, you fool?

How long have you been alive and aware of the flu?

The flu kills thousands of people every year. It is "spreadable" just like Covid.

YOU have probably been sick with the flu in your life. YOU have probably unwittingly contributed to old fat peoples deaths.

Where was your moral outrage then?

Or how about any other communicable disease?

Where was your grass roots movement to use your scientific knowledge to own conservatives and convince us to get vaccinated for those spreadable diseases?

jewbiden wrote:

I am a Trump guy wrote:

Jewbiden- no one was/is a bigger friend to our Jewish allies than Donald J Trump.

https://images.app.goo.gl/cjZV4MADi7JHvcS96https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-israel-literally-owned-congress-a-decade-ago-today-its-the-opposite/

Harambe, who says I'm a fan of Trump?

No one said anything about who you may or may not support. But I’m a Trump fan and I want to give him the credit he deserves. Don’t take it personal of Trump is a great friend of Israel.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Harambe wrote:

So even saying all these unhealthy peoples' lives were worth nothing, we still would have ~250k excess deaths since March 2020 = more than nearly every war in US history.

You care not one bit for your fellow Americans, this is all that's clear.

And you dont care about Americans either. How old are you, you fool?

How long have you been alive and aware of the flu?

The flu kills thousands of people every year. It is "spreadable" just like Covid.

YOU have probably been sick with the flu in your life. YOU have probably unwittingly contributed to old fat peoples deaths.

Where was your moral outrage then?

Or how about any other communicable disease?

Where was your grass roots movement to use your scientific knowledge to own conservatives and convince us to get vaccinated for those spreadable diseases?

Bro calm down. I totally agree that we should take infectious disease burden more seriously in the US. However COVID is roughly killing 10x as many people as the flu. This is bad! It's even worse that now we could be reducing COVID to close to flu levels of killing (or less!) if people would just vaccinate.

Here I am saying: "we can make COVID only as bad at the flu you just have to take a safe and effective vaccine" and you're just yelling at me with random whataboutisms. Convincing argument!

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Spreading antivaxx propaganda to people susceptible to it... is bad and likely contributes to very costly mistakes.

So is it "confirmed" or "likely contributes to very costly mistakes"? We love how your argument gets weaker when called out by a witty one-liner.

Harambeaten

It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Nobody even argues that anymore.

Propaganda-susceptible folks like yourself have unwittingly contributed to this by buying into basically every COVID-denier grift that's come your way. Heck, I've seen you parroting the latest denier talking points since basically the first month of the pandemic! You're exhibit A!

Harambe wrote:

Bullet_Proof wrote:

So is it "confirmed" or "likely contributes to very costly mistakes"? We love how your argument gets weaker when called out by a witty one-liner.

Harambeaten

It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Nobody even argues that anymore.

Propaganda-susceptible folks like yourself have unwittingly contributed to this by buying into basically every COVID-denier grift that's come your way. Heck, I've seen you parroting the latest denier talking points since basically the first month of the pandemic! You're exhibit A!

Alex Jones told me they put child blood in the vaccines. Come on, patriots! Let's chase those evil democrats to the border!

People who choose to skip the vaccine are directly responsible for the continuation of this pandemic.

SurverySays wrote:

People who choose to skip the vaccine are directly responsible for the continuation of this pandemic.

That is incorrect.

At most they are responsible for developing serious symptoms and/or dying.

Vaccinated people can catch and spread the virus as well.

Try some other type of disinformation next time.

Harambe wrote:

It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Nobody even argues that anymore.

Stop rimming your boyfriend's butthole. It's obviously rotting what little there's left of your brain.

Harambe wrote:

One of the longest threads in LRC history and not one piece of evidence against "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated"

My magnum opus

Harambe great gift is declaring premature and/or illegitimate victory.

"Biden fixed Covid" - Harambe March 2021

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Risks of myocarditis are higher among young compared to a covid infection.

Interesting, if true. But I haven't seen that so far. Link?. . .

You do NOT know 100% what the long term effects of covid are. Stop making that claim.

Agreed, nobody knows what the ultimate effects of Covid-19 might be, five or ten years down the road.

His/her point perhaps might be that, in just the first few months of the pandemic, we saw *enough* long-term effects (transplants and amputations and death would qualify) to know that infection with SARS-CoV-2 was potentially a very bad idea...while in the first several months of immunization, such long-term effects are rarer by orders of magnitude.

Unvaccinated people are 6x more likely to test positive for Covid 19. So, 6x more likely to spread the virus.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

^^^ wrong graphic showing, but click the link to go to the graphic showing 6x.

Those who refuse to get vaccinated are just cowards pretending to be principled.

Lolololololololololololol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/02/nypd-unpaid-leave-vaccine-mandate/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Yessiree Bob wrote:

Lolololololololololololol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/02/nypd-unpaid-leave-vaccine-mandate/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Yesterday, it was reported that 91% of NYC employees, who are subject to a vaccine mandate, are vaccinated. Among the NYPD and FDNY, that number is around 75%-80%. And those numbers are only going to go up.

Those opposed to the vaccine are a small but vocal minority.