nontrumper wrote:
Comey's hands were tied. He was getting in front of the inevitable. Chaffetz and others were going to leak it to the press regardless. Corey's actions may have been the difference maker in the election, but his actions will also bring down the Trump administration.
Raising suspicion with the press is way different then raising suspicion with the FBI.
Emoji Girl,
You haven't been answering my posts. Who are these hated people the libbbtwats that you go on and on about.
Are they all the people who voted Hillary? That's the majority of America and if you think they are all liberals you are NUTS! (Oops sorry, poor choice of words)
Are they the radical liberals who voted Jill stein?
Don't be scared and answer my question?
And who are "us"? Do you have alters?
Melania Trump just "liked" a tweet purporting a rocky relationship between her and her husband. I honestly hope it is just some sort of mistake. We don't need a president who is having marital problems and I hate to see anyone going through that.
eric a blair wrote:
You want to know the trouble Trump has with the press? He says insane things and then blames the press when they report said crazy thing.
He accused obama of wiretapping him. Major accusation, with zero evidence.
A reporter tried to get Trump's view of it. Trump tries spinning away, saying 'your opinion is as good as mine.' Reporter says 'but you're the president.'
Trump ends interview abruptly, walks away.
How the F are reporters supposed to handle these things, trumpers? Ignore it when Trump accuses a past president of a felony? Not report the crazy stuff trump says?
Serious question. When trump says crazy, false stuff what should the press do?
https://twitter.com/MikeLevinCA/status/859063023608053760
There is plenty of wiretapping evidence by the Obama administration. The main stream media refuses to talk about it now after months of bragging about it on their newspapers and TV shows.
You refuse to believe it or you thing it was justified.
itbaddude wrote:
eric a blair wrote:You want to know the trouble Trump has with the press? He says insane things and then blames the press when they report said crazy thing.
He accused obama of wiretapping him. Major accusation, with zero evidence.
A reporter tried to get Trump's view of it. Trump tries spinning away, saying 'your opinion is as good as mine.' Reporter says 'but you're the president.'
Trump ends interview abruptly, walks away.
How the F are reporters supposed to handle these things, trumpers? Ignore it when Trump accuses a past president of a felony? Not report the crazy stuff trump says?
Serious question. When trump says crazy, false stuff what should the press do?
https://twitter.com/MikeLevinCA/status/859063023608053760There is plenty of wiretapping evidence by the Obama administration. The main stream media refuses to talk about it now after months of bragging about it on their newspapers and TV shows.
You refuse to believe it or you thing it was justified.
Every Republican in congress who has been asked about it says that there is no evidence supporting Trump's wiretapping tweets. Are these Republican leaders all being duped by the media?
Fat hurts wrote:
Melania Trump just "liked" a tweet purporting a rocky relationship between her and her husband. I honestly hope it is just some sort of mistake. We don't need a president who is having marital problems and I hate to see anyone going through that.
http://people.com/politics/melania-trump-twitter/
I hope you are joking. How much more obvious could it be that Melania's only interest in the Donald is in waiting for him to die? Anyone who has not noticed this since at least a year ago has not been paying attention.
itbaddude wrote:
eric a blair wrote:You want to know the trouble Trump has with the press? He says insane things and then blames the press when they report said crazy thing.
He accused obama of wiretapping him. Major accusation, with zero evidence.
A reporter tried to get Trump's view of it. Trump tries spinning away, saying 'your opinion is as good as mine.' Reporter says 'but you're the president.'
Trump ends interview abruptly, walks away.
How the F are reporters supposed to handle these things, trumpers? Ignore it when Trump accuses a past president of a felony? Not report the crazy stuff trump says?
Serious question. When trump says crazy, false stuff what should the press do?
https://twitter.com/MikeLevinCA/status/859063023608053760There is plenty of wiretapping evidence by the Obama administration. The main stream media refuses to talk about it now after months of bragging about it on their newspapers and TV shows.
You refuse to believe it or you thing it was justified.
I absolutely LOVE how you (and so many Trumpettes - indeed, including the Donald himself) continually spout that "there is plenty of evidence" without ever producing any evidence whatsoever.
Good job!
re; Trump caving to the dems on the budget:
"The most powerful person in Washington is the Senate minority leader" - Joe Scarborough (Republican)
I think this isn't literally true, but it explains much - to get anything through the senate the minority party has a major say. Which is as it should be. UNless a nutty minority party just stonewalls everything - then the system fails.
STSBO wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:Melania Trump just "liked" a tweet purporting a rocky relationship between her and her husband. I honestly hope it is just some sort of mistake. We don't need a president who is having marital problems and I hate to see anyone going through that.
http://people.com/politics/melania-trump-twitter/I hope you are joking. How much more obvious could it be that Melania's only interest in the Donald is in waiting for him to die? Anyone who has not noticed this since at least a year ago has not been paying attention.
I'm not joking. Even if they are just playing along, you want the two of them to at least GET along. Melania is the mother of Trump's kids, one of whom is with him in the White House every day. Family drama is bad for a presidency and ultimately bad for the country.
Fat hurts wrote:
STSBO wrote:I hope you are joking. How much more obvious could it be that Melania's only interest in the Donald is in waiting for him to die? Anyone who has not noticed this since at least a year ago has not been paying attention.
I'm not joking. Even if they are just playing along, you want the two of them to at least GET along. Melania is the mother of Trump's kids, one of whom is with him in the White House every day. Family drama is bad for a presidency and ultimately bad for the country.
Didn't mean to suggest that Melania is Ivanka's mother. Melania is the mother of only one of Donald's kids, Barron. Point is the same though. The current presidency is a family business. Any tension in the family hurts Trump's ability to do important work like dealing with North Korea.
Agip Detector wrote:
TroLLminator wrote:You're wrong, it's pretty clear that Trump voters don't respect the press, who is disputing that? Whether they should respect the press is a different question. It's also debatable why they don't respect them. I can easily argue the GOP is butt hurt from having been on the receiving end of the "liberal" networks for so long, hence their campaign to discredit them. Trump simply stepped up the anti-media rhetoric that much more. Clear case of attacking the messenger. It's always fine when something is working in your favor, but when it doesn't it's easy to cry foul. It's kind of pathetic to point the finger at the media for your failures. It's even more pathetic that you as a voter think the GOP is a victim. There is an arsenal of right-wing media weapons which have been extremely effective at charging up voters. Don't watch CNN if you don't like their opinions or analysis. You are a lazy moran though if you believe you can't find "real" news anywhere.
Btw - I do agree that the coverage since Trump entered the race until election mostly helped him. The likes of CNN not only gave him a voice, but they almost put a comical spin to it all. Don't forget their ratings are great, so as a business it worked. I would hardly say he took down the establishment. The GOP hasn't changed and won't, because Trump is gone in 4 or 8 years and they keep going. Can't wait to see what fills the void. But sure, keep hanging on to your one little "victory"...
(Damn, I would've bet any amount of money that Agip was going to bring the thread back up to the top. Anyway...)
"But sure, keep hanging on to your one little "victory"
One little victory? Your denial of Trump beating the establishment is ridiculous. They pulled out every trick from the playbook. CNN broadcast his audio saying the F, P, and B words on primetime TV. They wanted him to go down in flames. But... nope. HRC was NOT going to become president. And he won with positions that both Democrats and Republicans could relate to. His labor/jobs message could be exact quotes coming from Obama in 2008, and the media would have loved it. Remember, he flipped like 250 counties that voted for Obama twice. That is a flat out mandate from those counties.
Anyway, since you bring up victories, here are the victories the Left has had recently:
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Aaaaand here's what the Left controls:
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[nothing]
LOL
And you know they're having difficulty dealing with defeat (reality) when the Left is touting an admittedly "bi-partisan bill, that's great for America" as a victory, and loss for Trump.
What is wrong with these people? Worst losers of all time.
Jackson and civil war, what? Dude wouldn't pass a 5th grade history test.
Fat hurts wrote:We don't need a president who is having marital problems and I hate to see anyone going through that.
It's unfortunate she made that choice. But, as a disinterested person looking on, it is no surprise. He's a child.
Hopefully, the child of the kid has a relatively stable environment.
It's been pages since there has been a quality post on this thread that wasn't just bickering.
I'd like to lay out some positive things about this presidency.
To date, we have not committed to waste any money on a border wall. If it happens it would be a nice stimulus to those that would engineer and work on it. That's the only benefit it would have.
The Obama passed ACA remains intact and looks like it is in no danger of being repealed since Congress cannot agree on anything and the president's plan (which had no details) of covering everyone and being cheaper was not even considered by Congress.
So those in the most need are still covered.
A budget that strips funding for numerous beneficial programs has not been passed.
The multiyear streak of job growth every month has continued.
Stocks are up.
The system, despite a horrible leader, seems to work to keep America as great as it's been.
L L wrote:
The system, despite a horrible leader, seems to work to keep America as great as it's been.
Yeah, welcome to the last 17 years.
Willy1 wrote:
L L wrote:The system, despite a horrible leader, seems to work to keep America as great as it's been.
Yeah, welcome to the last 17 years.
Oooh, nice pithy comeback. Thank you for that substantive addition to the conversation!
eric a blair wrote:
re; Trump caving to the dems on the budget:
"The most powerful person in Washington is the Senate minority leader" - Joe Scarborough (Republican)
I think this isn't literally true, but it explains much - to get anything through the senate the minority party has a major say. Which is as it should be. UNless a nutty minority party just stonewalls everything - then the system fails.
Soon enough whatever political capital Trump has left will be gone and people will start to realize the ship actually has no captain. That's ironically mostly good, as long as he doesn't involve us in some military conflict. It's already starting to feel like we have no president. Trump has very limited political weight or influence. That is clearly showing. Soon his power to grab attention will diminish to a level of irrelevance.
L L wrote:
It's been pages since there has been a quality post on this thread that wasn't just bickering.
I'd like to lay out some positive things about this presidency.
To date, we have not committed to waste any money on a border wall. If it happens it would be a nice stimulus to those that would engineer and work on it. That's the only benefit it would have.
The Obama passed ACA remains intact and looks like it is in no danger of being repealed since Congress cannot agree on anything and the president's plan (which had no details) of covering everyone and being cheaper was not even considered by Congress.
So those in the most need are still covered.
A budget that strips funding for numerous beneficial programs has not been passed.
The multiyear streak of job growth every month has continued.
Stocks are up.
The system, despite a horrible leader, seems to work to keep America as great as it's been.
That's what I mean, it's as if there is no leader. Great stuff
TroLLminator wrote:
L L wrote:It's been pages since there has been a quality post on this thread that wasn't just bickering.
I'd like to lay out some positive things about this presidency.
To date, we have not committed to waste any money on a border wall. If it happens it would be a nice stimulus to those that would engineer and work on it. That's the only benefit it would have.
The Obama passed ACA remains intact and looks like it is in no danger of being repealed since Congress cannot agree on anything and the president's plan (which had no details) of covering everyone and being cheaper was not even considered by Congress.
So those in the most need are still covered.
A budget that strips funding for numerous beneficial programs has not been passed.
The multiyear streak of job growth every month has continued.
Stocks are up.
The system, despite a horrible leader, seems to work to keep America as great as it's been.
That's what I mean, it's as if there is no leader. Great stuff
another way to look at it is Gore or Bush2. Bush2 made enough bad decisions that it finally made a difference - two wars, deregulating that led to the financial crisis, alienating allies left and right. The economy tanked and many thousands of Americans and many hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives.
The analogy I like is a supertanker - you make a steering input...takes a while to make a difference. But once the steering input has been made, the turn will happen...just quite a bit down the road.
And more immediately, in a crisis we now have a completely unqualified president who everyone knows lies a lot and bluffs a lot. A crisis - and there is always a crisis - could escalate badly with such a poor president in charge.
