800
O'Brien
Bofa
Graybeal
Steeple
Kosgei
Erichsen
Holehan
1500
O'Brien
McConnell
Chaffee
5k
Abdallah
Kosgei
Sigl
10k
Abdallah
Ramsey-North
Mull
800
O'Brien
Bofa
Graybeal
Steeple
Kosgei
Erichsen
Holehan
1500
O'Brien
McConnell
Chaffee
5k
Abdallah
Kosgei
Sigl
10k
Abdallah
Ramsey-North
Mull
i cannot believe how many of you think kosgei is losing this weekend.
Men
800 - O'Brien
1500 - Hodge
Steeple - Kosgei
5000 - Sigl
10000 - Balster
Women
800 - Herrick
1500 - Mitchell
Steeple - Bradley
5000 - Wiz
10000 - Wiz
matt skiba wrote:
i cannot believe how many of you think kosgei is losing this weekend.
Plus out of all the people you could pick to beat him, Hany is about as wrong as you can get.
Do does anybody besides the person who posted actually believe that Sigl will lose to Abdallah, Ramsey North, and Mull?
You know "predict" who they WANT to win not who's likely to win
I have to pick Jimmy O in the 1500, but I think he will lose the 800. Make all the comparisons you want to Nick Symmonds, but he hasn't come fully into fruition yet. It's his first time attempting this double on a national level as well.
I am also going to pick Sigl in the 10k, and Kaul for the 5k.
Erik Donohoe and Dan Ramsey from SLU will be All-Americans. Erik in the 5k and Dan in the 10k. If the race is slow look for Dan to do very well in the last lap. The kid is legit, look at the ECAC's results...closed in a 62. Erik got 6th at XC nationals...need I say more?
If any body thinks Sigl and Kaul aren't the class of the field of the 10k then they are sorely mistaken.
Kosgei will win both.
O'Brien might win both...
i think me and guy above me are the only 2 people who know that o'brien and kosgei will dominate this weekend.
The fact that so many people don't understand what predictions are is sort of depressing.
From websters: to declare or indicate in advance; especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason
So it can be who you want to win, who you think will win, who the magic 8 ball told you would win. And arguing about predictions has to be about the dumbest thing ever- of course they're all different, that's why there are threads about it, to see what other people think. If it was a sure thing who was going to win (Kosgei pickers, this is directed at you) this would be a very short thread.
So enjoy who has their favorites, their theory on who is peaking well, etc. And remember that all it takes is an unlucky spike or fall to take the safest pick out of contention.
Finally, one last thing for all those who think Kosgei can't lose: someone already pointed out on this thread (or another, can't remember) that the D3 steeple record holder didn't win his conference the year he set the record. If he can lose, why not Kosgei?
800
O'Brian
Knight
Stenuf
Sprintec wrote:
If any body thinks Sigl and Kaul aren't the class of the field of the 10k then they are sorely mistaken.
Kosgei will win both.
O'Brien might win both...
I'm inclined to agree with this guy.
Sprintec wrote:
If any body thinks Sigl and Kaul aren't the class of the field of the 10k then they are sorely mistaken.
Kosgei will win both.
O'Brien might win both...
Except that Kaul only ran 30:30 in a very competitive race at Stanford. I don't doubt that he was capable of a lot more this season, especially given his 5k at indoor nationals, but to automatically label him as class of the field when there are two guys who ran sub-30 the first week of April doesn't seem very accurate.
I won't dispute that Sigl (who ran a 30:18 with no competition and has proved himself a champion a few seasons in a row) is the strong favorite.
well.... wrote:
Sprintec wrote:If any body thinks Sigl and Kaul aren't the class of the field of the 10k then they are sorely mistaken.
Kosgei will win both.
O'Brien might win both...
Except that Kaul only ran 30:30 in a very competitive race at Stanford. I don't doubt that he was capable of a lot more this season, especially given his 5k at indoor nationals, but to automatically label him as class of the field when there are two guys who ran sub-30 the first week of April doesn't seem very accurate.
I won't dispute that Sigl (who ran a 30:18 with no competition and has proved himself a champion a few seasons in a row) is the strong favorite.
Kaul had a sidestitch and ran terribly out at Stanford. The 10k is Kaul's best event and he and Sigl will run away from everyone and battle it out over the last 400. Plus i heard Hany has been a bit banged up (?) Props for his awesome time being pulled around the track, but he's toast in a national caliber race-AGAIN. I think spots 3-5 will be close between Curtis Wheeler, I.R North, and Mull.
Maybe NYU's coach will get all pissy again and make comments to fellow coaches about how Hany gave their athlete a national title. (ex: indoor nationals) What a prick...
hany wasn't "pulled around the track," he ran his sub-30 at princeton by himself out front for nearly the entirety of the race. that being said, i don't think he'll place better than 3rd, but still, you should actually know the facts before you post something.
Different races require different strategies. When it comes to championships place of finish is the only thing that matters. If hany pulled racers around the track in a championship race, only to be beaten, then it is his own fault and a poor strategy. Championships aren't time trials. Strategy is involved. If a coach whined about this then he didn't do a very good job of planning an effective strategy.
How many of the Div 111 5K champs in the last 20 yrs went on to go sub 14:00??
Anyone know
bak did. Just ran 13:39 a few weeks back too.