If the documents were so important why did the government wait 20 months to seize them? They knew where they were. This obviously was a fishing epedition. the swamp is enraged that they have never been able to even charge Trump with anything. In Nov. we are going to clean house...take the trash out.
No it isn't "obviously" a fishing expedition. The National Archives have been trying to get Trump to cooperated since early in 2021. They didn't want to escalate it. Eventually, they got the DOJ/FBI involved because Trump was not cooperating. If it was intended as an attempt to trap Trump, they would have gone in heavy earlier.
If the government didn't wait (20 months as the boy posted) the boy would be angrily be posting about the government not giving Trump the chance to turn in the documents on their own. The boy would claim they went earlier because it was a "fishing expedition".
No it isn't "obviously" a fishing expedition. The National Archives have been trying to get Trump to cooperated since early in 2021. They didn't want to escalate it. Eventually, they got the DOJ/FBI involved because Trump was not cooperating. If it was intended as an attempt to trap Trump, they would have gone in heavy earlier.
If the government didn't wait (20 months as the boy posted) the boy would be angrily be posting about the government not giving Trump the chance to turn in the documents on their own. The boy would claim they went earlier because it was a "fishing expedition".
The government only found out in February that Spanky had classified documents. So they asked nicely for six months until they figured out trump was not on the side of law enforcement and asked for a search warrant.
Joedirts is the third poster in the last 6-7 pages who couldn't seem to comprehend the timeline of events, the legal issues presented, or the contents of the May 11, 2022 letter.
It's really weird. An average IQ (98 is US) should be able to conceptualize all this mostly linear analysis. I can't figure out if it's a dyslexia issue, a cognitive dissonance issue, or a kind of media-inspired hysteria that they are all laboring under.
Nope, just right wingers being right wingers. Nothing more, nothing less
Avid Trump supporters have lower education levels which does correlate with lower average intelligence but I really believe the main reason for the block of understanding is the strong psychological motivation to keep cognitive dissonance to a minimum.
We are all motivated to avoid cognitive dissonance its just much harder to do when reality is threatening to seep in (such as with Trump supporters).
If the government didn't wait (20 months as the boy posted) the boy would be angrily be posting about the government not giving Trump the chance to turn in the documents on their own. The boy would claim they went earlier because it was a "fishing expedition".
The government only found out in February that Spanky had classified documents. So they asked nicely for six months until they figured out trump was not on the side of law enforcement and asked for a search warrant.
Former Rolling Stone editor Matt Taibbi is one of the few Democrats who isn't 24/7 consumed with TDS. As such he's able to see this situation clearly:
You called Sam Harris a Democrat as well. You have some weird and childish desire to make everything binary to suit your views.
If you read Taibbi (and Harris), which I highly doubt you ever have or will, you would understand that neither one holds what most consider "Democrat" views.
Trump is not a conservative, by the way. Anti-military, pro-big government entitlement spending, trashes Republican politicians, pardons felons in prison, has friendly relationships with America's enemies (ala Jane Fonda), believes the law is malleable, disagrees with American exceptionalism, pro-Evil Empire, negotiates with terrorists, etc.
I've heard countless of hours of Sam Harris speaking. He openly says he votes Democrat in every presidential election.
Trump not being a conservative was part of his appeal. His main flaw policy wise was he spent money like a Democrat.
Trump was not anti-military. Being anti-war is NOT being anti-military. Quite the opposite. People like Hillary Clinton and John Bolton being pro-war because it makes themselves and their buddies rich does NOT make them pro-military.
All presidents pardon felons. Clinton did it, both Bushes did it, and Obama did it. Pretending only Trump did this is wildly dishonest. But then that's kind of your whole thing.
So Obama says mean things about Iran and gives them BILLIONS along with a clear path to a nuclear weapon and he's a hero. Trump is polite to Putin publicly, doesn't give them anything, and even kills Russian soldiers in Syria and he's a Russian stooge. GTFOH.
Disagrees with American exceptionalism? Obama addressed this directly and declared that there was no such thing as American exceptionalism. That is was no different than Dutch exceptionalism. Democrats loathe america... so much so that they want to "fundamentally transform it" because it was born of racism and all sort of other horrible things...
Trump negotiates with terrorists? LOL! Obama traded 1 POS soldier for half the leadership of the Taliban. Joe Biden gave the entire country of Afghanistan back to the Taliban. You do not live in reality.
You called Sam Harris a Democrat as well. You have some weird and childish desire to make everything binary to suit your views.
If you read Taibbi (and Harris), which I highly doubt you ever have or will, you would understand that neither one holds what most consider "Democrat" views.
Trump is not a conservative, by the way. Anti-military, pro-big government entitlement spending, trashes Republican politicians, pardons felons in prison, has friendly relationships with America's enemies (ala Jane Fonda), believes the law is malleable, disagrees with American exceptionalism, pro-Evil Empire, negotiates with terrorists, etc.
I've heard countless of hours of Sam Harris speaking. He openly says he votes Democrat in every presidential election.
Sam Harris is not a Democrat. I provided you with this before, but you didn't read it. He attacks the core of everything Dems stand for in this transcript.
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Trump was not anti-military. Being anti-war is NOT being anti-military. Quite the opposite. People like Hillary Clinton and John Bolton being pro-war because it makes themselves and their buddies rich does NOT make them pro-military.
Trump is anti-US military. He insulted US military missions and results, he insulted American soldiers and war heroes, and he gave aid and comfort to America's foreign enemies. As you know, he even whined about the "military industrial complex." When it comes to the US military, Trump is Jane Fonda in liberal sheep's clothing. He's a neo-Chamberlainite and so are his hard-core fans.
King of Whataboutyou wrote:
All presidents pardon felons. Clinton did it, both Bushes did it, and Obama did it. Pretending only Trump did this is wildly dishonest. But then that's kind of your whole thing. So Obama says mean things about Iran and gives them BILLIONS along with a clear path to a nuclear weapon and he's a hero. Trump is polite to Putin publicly, doesn't give them anything, and even kills Russian soldiers in Syria and he's a Russian stooge. GTFOH. Disagrees with American exceptionalism? Obama addressed this directly and declared that there was no such thing as American exceptionalism. That is was no different than Dutch exceptionalism. Democrats loathe america... so much so that they want to "fundamentally transform it" because it was born of racism and all sort of other horrible things... Trump negotiates with terrorists? LOL! Obama traded 1 POS soldier for half the leadership of the Taliban. Joe Biden gave the entire country of Afghanistan back to the Taliban. You do not live in reality.
Instruction: Go back and read what you typed. That is what we mean when we say "whataboutyouismness." It is a wholly ineffectual tactic. (1) You are essentially saying Trump is no different than the people you listed (Obam, Hil Clinton, etc.), (2) it's irrelevant to the assertion you are responding to and can also be considered an admission that it was factually true, and (3) it's particularly useless on me, because I'm a conservative -- the "you" part in your attempted "whataboutYOUismness" does NOT apply.
I want you and your other pacifist friends to study the above carefully. You will learn the ineffectual nature of whataboutyouismness and how to spot it, and you will not post here again until you have demonstrated that you can stop such behavior. Am I clear?
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You called Sam Harris a Democrat as well. You have some weird and childish desire to make everything binary to suit your views.
If you read Taibbi (and Harris), which I highly doubt you ever have or will, you would understand that neither one holds what most consider "Democrat" views.
Trump is not a conservative, by the way. Anti-military, pro-big government entitlement spending, trashes Republican politicians, pardons felons in prison, has friendly relationships with America's enemies (ala Jane Fonda), believes the law is malleable, disagrees with American exceptionalism, pro-Evil Empire, negotiates with terrorists, etc.
Trump negotiates with terrorists? LOL! Obama traded 1 POS soldier for half the leadership of the Taliban. Joe Biden gave the entire country of Afghanistan back to the Taliban. You do not live in reality.
I think it was Trump's idea to give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. But you should look it up and see if Trump ever initiated negotiations with the terrorist Taliban and gave them concessions. Then you can report back here with an affirmative or a denial as to whether Trump ever negotiated with the Taliban. Remember, whataboutyouismness is strictly prohibited now.
This Taliban negotiation thing may shape up to be one of those things where you were for it before you against it. Very Kerryesque.
Anyway, that's all swill under the bridge. The bottom line is that two weeks ago, Trump set an American deposition record for pleading the Fifth Amendment. Four hundred fifty two (452) times in one depo, shattering the previous record of thirty six (36) held by O.J. Simpson set in January 1996. I can't see anyone even coming close to Trump's valid exercise of his Constitutional rights again. Truly a historic depo.
Love it when you post all of your babbling and no one but yourself reads it. Without reading it, I can tell you that you are a Obama and Hillary Lover and bow to their every word. You will lie for both of them until your last breath. Moron:)
Trump negotiates with terrorists? LOL! Obama traded 1 POS soldier for half the leadership of the Taliban. Joe Biden gave the entire country of Afghanistan back to the Taliban. You do not live in reality.
I think it was Trump's idea to give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. But you should look it up and see if Trump ever initiated negotiations with the terrorist Taliban and gave them concessions. Then you can report back here with an affirmative or a denial as to whether Trump ever negotiated with the Taliban. Remember, whataboutyouismness is strictly prohibited now.
This Taliban negotiation thing may shape up to be one of those things where you were for it before you against it. Very Kerryesque.
Anyway, that's all swill under the bridge. The bottom line is that two weeks ago, Trump set an American deposition record for pleading the Fifth Amendment. Four hundred fifty two (452) times in one depo, shattering the previous record of thirty six (36) held by O.J. Simpson set in January 1996. I can't see anyone even coming close to Trump's valid exercise of his Constitutional rights again. Truly a historic depo.
Afghanistan had a government. They had BILLIONS in military equipment that we gave them.
Trump negotiated to end the war in Afghanistan not to hand the country to the Taliban.
What concessions did Trump give the Taliban? Report back when you find them.
The Trump plan was to give control to the Afghan government and end US involvement. Not to simply cut and run overnight without even telling our allies like Biden did.
Love it when you post all of your babbling and no one but yourself reads it. Without reading it, I can tell you that you are a Obama and Hillary Lover and bow to their every word. You will lie for both of them until your last breath. Moron:)
You are wrong, GodBlessKids. Your fellow American-military-hating friend AdultRoomer reads them and responds. We know he reads them, because it led to me having to lecture him about (1) the inefficacy of whataboutyouismness and (2) what a conservative actually is.
And I have never posted a pro-Obam or pro-Hillary Clinton sentiment in my life. You, on the other hand, have long been suspected of being a closet pro-Obam.
Love it when you post all of your babbling and no one but yourself reads it. Without reading it, I can tell you that you are a Obama and Hillary Lover and bow to their every word. You will lie for both of them until your last breath. Moron:)
You are wrong, GodBlessKids. Your fellow American-military-hating friend AdultRoomer reads them and responds. We know he reads them, because it led to me having to lecture him about (1) the inefficacy of whataboutyouismness and (2) what a conservative actually is.
And I have never posted a pro-Obam or pro-Hillary Clinton sentiment in my life. You, on the other hand, have long been suspected of being a closet pro-Obam.
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Love it when you post all of your babbling and no one but yourself reads it. Without reading it, I can tell you that you are a Obama and Hillary Lover and bow to their every word. You will lie for both of them until your last breath. Moron:)
You are wrong, GodBlessKids. Your fellow American-military-hating friend AdultRoomer reads them and responds. We know he reads them, because it led to me having to lecture him about (1) the inefficacy of whataboutyouismness and (2) what a conservative actually is.
And I have never posted a pro-Obam or pro-Hillary Clinton sentiment in my life. You, on the other hand, have long been suspected of being a closet pro-Obam.
I think it was Trump's idea to give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. But you should look it up and see if Trump ever initiated negotiations with the terrorist Taliban and gave them concessions. Then you can report back here with an affirmative or a denial as to whether Trump ever negotiated with the Taliban. Remember, whataboutyouismness is strictly prohibited now.
This Taliban negotiation thing may shape up to be one of those things where you were for it before you against it. Very Kerryesque.
Anyway, that's all swill under the bridge. The bottom line is that two weeks ago, Trump set an American deposition record for pleading the Fifth Amendment. Four hundred fifty two (452) times in one depo, shattering the previous record of thirty six (36) held by O.J. Simpson set in January 1996. I can't see anyone even coming close to Trump's valid exercise of his Constitutional rights again. Truly a historic depo.
Afghanistan had a government. They had BILLIONS in military equipment that we gave them.
Trump negotiated to end the war in Afghanistan not to hand the country to the Taliban.
What concessions did Trump give the Taliban? Report back when you find them.
The Trump plan was to give control to the Afghan government and end US involvement. Not to simply cut and run overnight without even telling our allies like Biden did.
It was a given that the Taliban would take the country back once the U.S. left and that’s why we were there for all those years.
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