If he was hitting those 130km+ weeks 6 months earlier I think he may have a good shot but I dont think he has given himself enough time at the higher volumes to get the benefits.
If he was hitting those 130km+ weeks 6 months earlier I think he may have a good shot but I dont think he has given himself enough time at the higher volumes to get the benefits.
Halfway today at Reading he looked on about 72 pace, any news on how he ended up?
Any updates?
Well, lets hope he's clsoe to 72 then... I predicted 1:14:30 i think to myself... lets hope he does it then, and he's on target for somethign speacial.
Don't know where the link to the results are... oh well...
Mark
According to a poster on another thread Vero finished Reading HM in around 1:21.
Checked the race website and I do not see his name in the results for 2007. I could be missing something, but DNF?
letssee wrote:
Don't underestimate Kenenisa Bekele's absoulute determination to be the best in the World.
(...)
Regarding Alex. If he is physically suited to marathon running, then in several years he could produce a remarkable performance, but only if he does remarkable training.
Here's a quote from Bekele at World Cross, taken from Wejo's report:
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And perhaps the most impressive comment I heard was from Bekele when he was asked whether he had any special diet or special training that he does to make him so great. His response was: "I believe God blesses people with special talents. Out of many people, only one can win. God has given me that gift repeatedly." He went on to add how "I do not have a special diet... I do not have any special training... It is the same as my teammates." He reiterated the fact that he has no idea why it is the case but we are all given gifts and talents and his gift was to run and to run fast.
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Note the fact that he does the same training as his teammates, nothing special or secret. It's like that in any team or training group that I've been in -- same training, some people are just faster.
Vero may or may not produce a remarkable performance, but if he does it will be because (a) he did some remarkable training, and (b) he was born with the ability to reach that level. Simply doing "remarkable training" is, in itself, not enough to guarantee a 2:15.
looked through and he must of droped out because he was not in the top 700
he really is deluded - somehow in a few weeks he will runner quicker for twice the distance. Learn the lesson - you've done well, you've improved, you're just kidding everyone (including yourself) on though.
"READING HALF MARATHON"
I was disappointed to finish a long way off my original target of 1 hour 12 minutes in 1 hour 21 minutes 49 seconds. I will be going along to Paris unperturbed still aiming for my original target of 2 hours 30 minutes.
Where is that? I can't find that on his website. If he did finish in that time surely he's going to risk a even worse marathon time if he sets of to quick and blow's up.
Fool wrote:
he really is deluded - somehow in a few weeks he will runner quicker for twice the distance. Learn the lesson - you've done well, you've improved, you're just kidding everyone (including yourself) on though.
"READING HALF MARATHON"
I was disappointed to finish a long way off my original target of 1 hour 12 minutes in 1 hour 21 minutes 49 seconds. I will be going along to Paris unperturbed still aiming for my original target of 2 hours 30 minutes.
its on the homepage, i think his target should be 2.40, he hasnt got the times or consistancy(one good race out of how many? and even that time is a few minutes off what is needed) to get near 2.30
Yeah I agree. Although there may be reasons unknown to us why he still thinks that 2:30 is still on. It's a shame he dosen't explain his thinking behind why he thinks he is capable of 2:30 marathon when he's just had a shocker of a race and run 1:21. I would like to see him achieve his target though as it makes for intresting reading.
mottram the pom wrote:
its on the homepage, i think his target should be 2.40, he hasnt got the times or consistancy(one good race out of how many? and even that time is a few minutes off what is needed) to get near 2.30
i dont think he even ran 1 21 i cant see his name in the results
a friend of mine ran his PB - 70.01 - at reading a few years ago but he never appeared on the official results.I know he did it because i saw him.
still 1.21 - as anyone with a half a brain knows - does not equate to a 2.30 marathon. He should aim for 2.45.
Fool wrote:
he really is deluded - somehow in a few weeks he will runner quicker for twice the distance. Learn the lesson - you've done well, you've improved, you're just kidding everyone (including yourself) on though.
"READING HALF MARATHON"
I was disappointed to finish a long way off my original target of 1 hour 12 minutes in 1 hour 21 minutes 49 seconds. I will be going along to Paris unperturbed still aiming for my original target of 2 hours 30 minutes.
Wow.
Well, for someone who has run a marathon in the past you'd think that he would realise how stupid that idea is?
You don't screw around with 26.2 miles - you have to respect that kind of distance.
From his website:
TRAINING OUTLINE
I know that a lot of people have been critical of the way that I have gone about my training for the Paris Marathon and the project as a whole. Starting out back in January 2006 I needed to lose 4 stone in the first 6 months and started running about 10km a week. I needed to set myself targets to prove to myself and others that I was capable of withstanding the training and improving. It could be argued that I should have spent the first year getting my 5km and 10km down to fast times and then only in the final year improving my endurance. I feel that if I can run slightly faster then Marathon pace for a half marathon then with a good taper and dogged determination over the last 6 miles of the race I can get to my target of 2 hours 30 minutes for the Paris Marathon. Over 5km and 10km it may appear that I do not have the pace to run a 2 hours 30 minutes marathon and I can understand peoples comments and scepticism for ambitious targets but all the races have been during hard training with no taper and the 10km have been used as tempo runs. I think it far more important to be able to run at a higher proportion of your VO2 max in the marathon.
Over the summer 2007 I will work almost exclusively on my speed over 1,3,5, km to improve my leg speed and VO2 max and have decided to only run in London next year as a do or die race. I don't think that my training and significant increase in mileage should be followed by others. I am often very fatigued and have been very fortunate not to get any injuries. Trying to squeeze 4 years of training into two considering my base fitness in January has been very hard but to make the documentary a success I have no other option but to be constantly pushing myself with the aim to peak once a year.
Yeah, this is going to be a success.
There's clearly no shortage of haters on letsrun
I think it just goes to show that he really does have a lack of knowledge in terms of prep. God nows what his 'advisers' are telling him, it really is surprising. In terms of cnfidnce alone surely he should have approached one race remotely fresh to give himself and his team an idea of where he is at????
I predict 2.48
Will 'dogged determination' get him through the last 6 miles after going through half way in 75, I doubt it!?
Marathon DNF wrote:I predict 2.48
Or a DNF.
hold the phone wrote:
letssee wrote:Don't underestimate Kenenisa Bekele's absoulute determination to be the best in the World.
(...)
Regarding Alex. If he is physically suited to marathon running, then in several years he could produce a remarkable performance, but only if he does remarkable training.
Here's a quote from Bekele at World Cross, taken from Wejo's report:
***
And perhaps the most impressive comment I heard was from Bekele when he was asked whether he had any special diet or special training that he does to make him so great. His response was: "I believe God blesses people with special talents. Out of many people, only one can win. God has given me that gift repeatedly." He went on to add how "I do not have a special diet... I do not have any special training... It is the same as my teammates." He reiterated the fact that he has no idea why it is the case but we are all given gifts and talents and his gift was to run and to run fast.
***
Note the fact that he does the same training as his teammates, nothing special or secret. It's like that in any team or training group that I've been in -- same training, some people are just faster.
Vero may or may not produce a remarkable performance, but if he does it will be because (a) he did some remarkable training, and (b) he was born with the ability to reach that level. Simply doing "remarkable training" is, in itself, not enough to guarantee a 2:15.
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Bekele was running for 15 years before his talent was discovered. I think you should bear that in mind. 15 years of development for someone as determined to outrun everyone, is rather significant.
My own determination to be at the top of my game is also yielding excellent results. If I had stated my ambition to you ten years ago, you would probably have though I was deluded.
I agree with others that Alex Vero is ingorant of the time it will take him to develop his running talent.