There's absolutely no basis to claim foreign intervention slowed down the overthrowing of Assad.
TAITR isn't actually this ignorant. He's just counting on his readers not knowing the depths of his lying. Assad benefited from massive foreign intervention, starting with Hezbollah. Then the IRGC and other Iranian proxy militias from Iraq and Afghanistan. Even that wasn't enough, so Russia had to intervene directly in 2015 to prop up Assad.
The US did more to hurt Assad than the inept Russians and Iranians did to help him. The US was even vaporizing Russians in Syria while the morons on the Democrat part were calling him a Russian puppet.
Oh hey, that's a lie. The US wound up its covert CIA assistance in 2018 and never provided any anti-Assad air support. It's overt assistance to the largely Kurdish SDF was prevented from being used against Assad's army. The US never sent advisors to anti-Assad forces, let alone ground troops. There was one glorious moment when a bunch of Wagner mercs thought they'd get wise with an oil field, and then they found out what HIMARS meant. But that was it.
Compare that to Iran sending military advisors. And material. And Iraqi, Afghan and Lebanese militias to fight directly. And Russia providing close air support.
TAITR knows this, but he's a liar who doesn't care about facts.
This is a different way of saying popular support and political will.
As regards Syria, Assad likely would have fallen in 2013 without Hezbollah troops helping him in Damascus, and 2015 without Russian air support in Aleppo. The US directly engaged Assad’s forces and allies on something like three total days, all of which were after that.
Having spoken with actual Iraqis on the subject I can promise you it has nothing to do with popular support or political will.
If you're a Red Sox fan and there's Yankees fans in your living room with machine guns guess which team you're going to say you root for.
The CIA was all over Syria by 2013 and the US was supporting multiple rebel groups including even Al Qaeda. The rebels were useless without outside help.
So what is your (or their) reasoning for why the US won in Iraq but lost in Afghanistan?
Why, in your mind, do weaker forces sometimes win wars?
Having spoken with actual Iraqis on the subject I can promise you it has nothing to do with popular support or political will.
If you're a Red Sox fan and there's Yankees fans in your living room with machine guns guess which team you're going to say you root for.
The CIA was all over Syria by 2013 and the US was supporting multiple rebel groups including even Al Qaeda. The rebels were useless without outside help.
So what is your (or their) reasoning for why the US won in Iraq but lost in Afghanistan?
Why, in your mind, do weaker forces sometimes win wars?
We won all of the battles in Vietnam because we were the stronger force when we were present. We lost the war because we were not present in 99% of the country most of the time.
The same thing happened in Afghanistan.
I'm not sure how you can call turning Iraq into a puppet state of Iran is a victory.
Weaker forces only win wars if the stronger force loses interest.
“I'm not sure how you can call turning Iraq into a puppet state of Iran is a victory.“
Because that is the political outcome the United States fought for. The government and political system of Iraq is the one the US set up after the 2003 invasion and supported against ISIS through 2018.
“Weaker forces only win wars if the stronger force loses interest.“
Interest here meaning popular support and political will. The American people wanted to bring the troops home, and two presidents (Trump and Biden) did not have the will to keep fighting.
“I'm not sure how you can call turning Iraq into a puppet state of Iran is a victory.“
Because that is the political outcome the United States fought for. The government and political system of Iraq is the one the US set up after the 2003 invasion and supported against ISIS through 2018.
“Weaker forces only win wars if the stronger force loses interest.“
Interest here meaning popular support and political will. The American people wanted to bring the troops home, and two presidents (Trump and Biden) did not have the will to keep fighting.
The US did NOT fight to make Iraq an Iranian puppet state.
The US literally created and armed Saddam Hussein to oppose Iran in the first place.
Iraq is a glaring example of the abject failure of interventionist foreign policy.
If a bear attacks you and then wanders off before it kills you do you think you won a fight with a bear?? The stronger animal/army ALWAYS wins if it wants to.
Insurgencies don't succeed militarily they succeed politically. Again... we won every single battle in these wars... and lost the political will to keep winning battles because the reward was not worth the cost.
Insurgencies don't succeed militarily they succeed politically. Again... we won every single battle in these wars... and lost the political will to keep winning battles because the reward was not worth the cost.
This is the point I have been making for a day and a half and you have been constantly arguing about it.
Nothing Russia does is in response to anything. Do you really believe that Russia sits around saying, "Oh, we really shouldn't attack Ukraine's energy infrastructure . . . but if Ukraine uses long range US-made weapons, THEN we'll attack!" ?
Russia invaded Ukraine. Russians bomb Ukrainian citizens in Ukraine every day and has done so for over 2 years. Tens of thousands of Ukrainians have been killed by Russians and millions more Ukrainians have had their lives destroyed. You are correct, it has been a horrific Russian invasion and assault.
Amid the continued rapid advance of Russian forces in Ukraine's east, and with the Donetsk villages of Vesely Gai and Pushkino (15km south of Pokrovsk) having been captured, Russia is also going after US-made Patriot batteries. "Russian forces have destroyed four Patriot anti-aircraft missile launchers provided to Ukraine by Western nations," the Defense Ministry announced Saturday.
The statement said that air force jets along with with drones and artillery groups, "destroyed a combat control vehicle, an AN/MPQ-65 radar station and four launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system made in the US." Zelensky has pleaded with the West to hand Ukraine at least 25 Patriot batteries, and some European countries have recently donated theirs to Ukrainian forces. This isn't the first time that Russia has taken out Patriots. Back in October the defense ministry said its forces struck "two Patriot launcher stations made in the US" along with a control station and radar set part of the Patriot defensive network. At that time a Ukrainian member of parliament had revealed that at least one Patriot battery was damaged in the October attack, but Kiev typically doesn't comment on the extent of damage to its Western-supplied weapons systems.
U.S., Turkish, EU and Arab envoys called for an "inclusive and non-sectarian" government, and rebel leader Ahmed Al-Sharaa has sought to ease fears of sectarian divisions: "Everyone will take their rights."
Oh, and for the "HTS is ISIS" crowd, note that HTS discovered an American, Travis Timmerman, who had been in an Assad prison for 10 months. You can imagine what Al Qaeda or ISIS would have done to an American in that situation. HTS brought him directly to American forces and he was flown out of Syria.
So freeing Americans from death camps is how things will only get worse for Syria now that Assad is gone?
Travis Timmerman, a Missouri native, was imprisoned in Syria after he crossed into the country months ago. He was flown out of Syria and taken by helicopter to Jordan on Friday, a U.S. official said.
Amid the continued rapid advance of Russian forces in Ukraine's east, and with the Donetsk villages of Vesely Gai and Pushkino (15km south of Pokrovsk) having been captured, Russia is also going after US-made Patriot batteries. "Russian forces have destroyed four Patriot anti-aircraft missile launchers provided to Ukraine by Western nations," the Defense Ministry announced Saturday.
The statement said that air force jets along with with drones and artillery groups, "destroyed a combat control vehicle, an AN/MPQ-65 radar station and four launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system made in the US." Zelensky has pleaded with the West to hand Ukraine at least 25 Patriot batteries, and some European countries have recently donated theirs to Ukrainian forces. This isn't the first time that Russia has taken out Patriots. Back in October the defense ministry said its forces struck "two Patriot launcher stations made in the US" along with a control station and radar set part of the Patriot defensive network. At that time a Ukrainian member of parliament had revealed that at least one Patriot battery was damaged in the October attack, but Kiev typically doesn't comment on the extent of damage to its Western-supplied weapons systems.
Where is the footage? The actual instances of patriot batteries being damaged have been widely circulated on Russian telegram, and there has been nothing as of late. That’s a blogging website making crap up. The russians also regularly strike farmer grain vehicles, de-resolute the video, and post it as HIMARS or Patriot battery hits.
Meanwhile a mass North Korean assault in Kursk was slaughtered by ukrainian defensive lines. Russian millbloggers on “Astra” also are furious at a north korean friendly fire incident killing 8 russian soldiers.
Amid the continued rapid advance of Russian forces in Ukraine's east, and with the Donetsk villages of Vesely Gai and Pushkino (15km south of Pokrovsk) having been captured, Russia is also going after US-made Patriot batteries. "Russian forces have destroyed four Patriot anti-aircraft missile launchers provided to Ukraine by Western nations," the Defense Ministry announced Saturday.
The statement said that air force jets along with with drones and artillery groups, "destroyed a combat control vehicle, an AN/MPQ-65 radar station and four launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system made in the US." Zelensky has pleaded with the West to hand Ukraine at least 25 Patriot batteries, and some European countries have recently donated theirs to Ukrainian forces. This isn't the first time that Russia has taken out Patriots. Back in October the defense ministry said its forces struck "two Patriot launcher stations made in the US" along with a control station and radar set part of the Patriot defensive network. At that time a Ukrainian member of parliament had revealed that at least one Patriot battery was damaged in the October attack, but Kiev typically doesn't comment on the extent of damage to its Western-supplied weapons systems.
I'm not saying you're transparently a Russian propagandist, but it is sort of telling that you (and Zero Hedge) have never commented on Russian equipment losses.
Things are great for Syria as Israel bombs the living hell out of the country and gobbles up more Syrian territory. Interesting how the new regime who's leader is from the Golan Heights is ok with this.
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