First, explain why you lied.
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busted wrote:
You are a liarDo you have a pointer to the terms of this proposal?
This article - linked to by that intrepid commenter maga2024 himself! - explains everything and debunks the stupid crap Lolly/CC keeps posting.
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no____deal wrote:
mm yy 22 cc wrote:
If anyone was wondering if Lolly/CC had finally lost his mind, there's your answer.
UKraIne invADED UKRaInE fiRst!!! 😡😡😡😵😵😵
So you're not going to hold Ukrainian government accountable for attempted genocide of russian-speaking Ukrainians in Donbas?
UKraIne's ruSSIAN-SPeAkIng PreSidENt AnD tHE RuSSiAN-sPEAkIng AZOV BAttAlion attemPtEd geNOcIDe on the RusSiAN-speAKING ukrAiNeRS!!! 😵😵😵😡😡😡😵😵😵
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mm yy 22 cc wrote:
kurgen wrote:
OSINT reports are Ukraine's air defense is in shambles. Anyone know what's wrong with Ukraine?
Yesterday: "Ha ha Ukraine air defense collapsing."
Today: Russian AWACS plane shot down over Azov Sea.
Kurgen's point is stronger than yours. Much.
Which is more important: the failure of air defense across the entire front line and country of Ukraine where Russia is making incremental advances or one plane? You are all the way down to cheering single tank, plane, boat, and unit losses now.
So, how’s the war going? Lol.
Apparently Russia will beat Ukraine if the West abandons it or doesn't abandon it and provides full support, like now.
Why don't you answer Kurgen's question: Anyone know what's wrong with Ukraine?
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1/15/2024 updates wrote:
Ukraine's neighbors keep blocking Ukraine. Russia scoffs at 'sanctions'
Ukraine has been getting preferential treatment for some time. It is catching up to them now.
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mm yy 22 cc wrote:
UKraIne's ruSSIAN-SPeAkIng PreSidENt AnD tHE RuSSiAN-sPEAkIng AZOV BAttAlion attemPtEd geNOcIDe on the RusSiAN-speAKING ukrAiNeRS!!! 😵😵😵😡😡😡😵😵😵
Bombo / Deno / Shoko Asahara commenting on the war with emojis. That's all you need to know. Mental illness in its later stages...
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The democracy Donbas sought in 2014 with democratic referendums before being attacked cannot be blocked now. Democracy is peaceful once again in the Donbas, thanks to Russia. We can see how these people vote when they are not being killed by Kiev-armed neonazis for wanting peaceful, democratic elections. Imagine Flemish Belguim (Brussels) using neonazis to attack French speaking Belgium for wanting to speak French and vote.
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Ukraine is still smaller wrote:
Prove Russia was at the neonazi Maidan jamboree in Kiev in 2013.
mic drop
Stop blustering about 2013 neonazis. America started this war in 2008. Red line crossed. Ukraine neonazis continued it. Both happened without Russia ever being there.
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sdf updated wrote:
sdf wrote:
Ukraine - *Overthrows government* violence started by Ukraine neonazis
Russia - Please stop
Ukraine - *Hang all Russians! Slava Ukraini*
Russia - Seriously please stop
Ukraine - *Burns Russians alive in Odessa*
Russia - wtf stop
Ukraine - *massacres Russians in the Donbass for 8 years*
Russia - last warning please stop
Ukraine - *wants to join NATO and prepares big offensive on DPR and LPR*
Russia - Fine, SMO
Ukraine - *WTFFFFFFFF WHYYYYY?? WE DID NOTHING! PLS HELP HUMAN RIGHTS*Thanks for that. I checked. The sniper massacre of the Maidan was a false flag perpetrated by Ukraine, a Ukraine tribunal has concluded.
Updated version below
Ukraine - *Overthrows government* violence started by Ukraine neonazis
Russia - Please stop
Ukraine - *Hang all Russians! Slava Ukraini*
Russia - Seriously please stop
Ukraine - *Burns Russians alive in Odessa*
Russia - wtf stop
Ukraine - *Ukraine snipers shoot Ukraine protestors from building controlled by Ukraine’s Svoboda party*
Russia - We are warning you, stop
Ukraine - *massacres Russians in the Donbass for 8 years*
Russia - last warning please stop
Ukraine - *wants to join NATO and prepares big offensive on DPR and LPR*
Russia - Fine, SMO
Ukraine - *WTFFFFFFFF WHYYYYY?? WE DID NOTHING! PLS HELP HUMAN RIGHTS*You really should add Bush crossing the last red line in 2008 to the top of your list. He proposed a "membership action plan" for Ukraine to join NATO. You can also add 1990 when USSR and NATO agreed to no expansion east.
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doomed, funding or not wrote:
Kurgen's point is stronger than yours. Much.
Which is more important: the failure of air defense across the entire front line and country of Ukraine where Russia is making incremental advances or one plane? You are all the way down to cheering single tank, plane, boat, and unit losses now.
So, how’s the war going? Lol.
Apparently Russia will beat Ukraine if the West abandons it or doesn't abandon it and provides full support, like now.
Why don't you answer Kurgen's question: Anyone know what's wrong with Ukraine?
Narrator voice: Ukraine's air defense has not, in fact collapsed.
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mm yy 22 cc wrote:
doomed, funding or not wrote:
Kurgen's point is stronger than yours. Much.
Which is more important: the failure of air defense across the entire front line and country of Ukraine where Russia is making incremental advances or one plane? You are all the way down to cheering single tank, plane, boat, and unit losses now.
So, how’s the war going? Lol.
Apparently Russia will beat Ukraine if the West abandons it or doesn't abandon it and provides full support, like now.
Why don't you answer Kurgen's question: Anyone know what's wrong with Ukraine?
Narrator voice: Ukraine's air defense has not, in fact collapsed.
Ukraine's ability to remove Russia collapsed.
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Goodbye Nazi trash. Denazification ongoing.
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Approaching two years and Russia still hasn't managed to topple the government of one of Europe's poorest countries. I thought they were a superpower? It took the US less than 3 weeks to topple Saddam.....
Anyways, is this thread just the same 3 people arguing with other? Both countires have lost bigtime here. For the Russian supporters what does victory even look like at this point?
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Removal Collapse wrote:
Ukraine's ability to remove Russia collapsed.
You are not far off. Ukraine soldiers are saying they are on the verge of collapse any day.
New York Times - Russia Regains Upper Hand in Ukraine’s East as Kyiv’s Troops Struggle
Ukrainians are weary, short of ammunition and outnumbered, and their prospects look bleak. “We can stop them for now, but who knows,” one soldier said. “Tomorrow or the next day, maybe we can’t stop them.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html
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Russian President Vladimir Putin personally sought a peace agreement with Ukraine in April 2022, according to Ambassador Aleksandr Chaly, a distinguished member of the Ukrainian delegation.
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former expat in R-land wrote:
Approaching two years and Russia still hasn't managed to topple the government of one of Europe's poorest countries. I thought they were a superpower? It took the US less than 3 weeks to topple Saddam.....
Anyways, is this thread just the same 3 people arguing with other? Both countires have lost bigtime here. For the Russian supporters what does victory even look like at this point?
In another news, the US, UK and numerous other NATO countries pumped BILLIONS into Ukrainian military and still haven't managed to beat an underfinanced and misorganized Russian army.
It looks, that after losing in Afghanistan, there will be no win in Ukraine for the US either ...
The victory for Russia will be having Donbas and Crimea officially recognized as Russian territory and having Ukraine sign a non-NATO agreement. Looks like it's only a matter of time until this is achieved. Good for Ukraine, finally cutting losses and being able to focus on rebuilding and joining the EU.
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