The Obvious Answer wrote:
Regardless of gender, who is watching this crappy movie?
I may go. Seems like a good place to meet women.
The Obvious Answer wrote:
Regardless of gender, who is watching this crappy movie?
I may go. Seems like a good place to meet women.
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
Show me a "Men's Night" that hasn't gotten blasted.
How about, show us a men's night that has gotten blasted.
One similar to this.
"Men only" events will make sense the day that no reasonably attractive male can leave his home without being aggressively propositioned by fat, ugly women who won't take "no" for an answer. If you want someone to blame for women only events, blame the huge number of men who act like complete creepers, not the women who just want a few hours in public without being openly eye f*cked by some fat 60-year-old.
asdfe wrote:
Access cannot be denied to a public place there based on gender. That's not to mention that it'd be illegal for them to even ask a person's gender before selling a ticket.
I'm not sure if that is illegal, but you can always self identify as a woman if you think it is that important.
Just like you going to a gay bar when you are "straight"
Sexism is sexism.
Unfortunately, we have pussified 'boys', err millenials, that never learned how to stand up and call out this kind of BS when they see it. Probably still too addled from all the anti-ADD (anti-male) drugs their mothers/teachers/psychiatrists pumped into them to complete their feminization. Women: Mission accomplished with these guys!
fael wrote:
What is the injustice that you feel has occurred?
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
Show me a "Men's Night" that hasn't gotten blasted.
Show me one that has. I asked what injustice has occurred, not which
perceived injustices would occur if you tried to organize something. And when you find an example I will concede that it shouldn't be "blasted", and also acknowledge that this is a very small injustice to befall our gender. Not important enough for me to lose sleep over.
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
How about an all-white college?
Illegal. Also, quite the leap from the above.
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
Or maybe a Christian wedding cake maker that is allowed to make cakes for weddings they deem legitimate.
Another monumental leap Legal in some states but not in others as sexual orientation isn't a federally protected class. So the injustice here is that you can't discriminate against everyone you want to in every state?
asdfe wrote:
fael wrote:What is the injustice that you feel has occurred?
Well, it IS illegal for them to do this. In the state of New York, theaters are considered a public location. Access cannot be denied to a public place there based on gender. That's not to mention that it'd be illegal for them to even ask a person's gender before selling a ticket.
Agreed. What if a women's group bought out the theatre seats, though?
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
It does bother me that that privilege is only extended to certain groups without being condemned by society.
What privilege? This movie is being shown in thousands of movie theaters to male, female, everything in between.
It's one theater, celebrating the fact that it's the first female superhero in her own film since... I can't remember there ever being another in the new millennium. If you're trolling, 9/10. If you're not, I respect your whining but it's very misplaced.
You may have a point but the way you're b|tching won't win anyone over.
WTFBBQ wrote:
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:It does bother me that that privilege is only extended to certain groups without being condemned by society.
What privilege? This movie is being shown in thousands of movie theaters to male, female, everything in between.
It's one theater, celebrating the fact that it's the first female superhero in her own film since... I can't remember there ever being another in the new millennium. If you're trolling, 9/10. If you're not, I respect your whining but it's very misplaced.
The privilege of buying a ticket and entering that specific theater, which is a considered public space in New York. This law was likely created with other circumstances in mind, but you really shouldn't selectively apply laws... sets bad precedent.
fael wrote:
asdfe wrote:Well, it IS illegal for them to do this. In the state of New York, theaters are considered a public location. Access cannot be denied to a public place there based on gender. That's not to mention that it'd be illegal for them to even ask a person's gender before selling a ticket.
Agreed. What if a women's group bought out the theatre seats, though?
If the theater was rented out for a private event, I would guess it'd be fine. Since this is a public showing, they would need to open up the sales to EVERYONE with equal opportunity. First come, first serve.
Who really cares. Did you really want to go see this movie that bad? Don't be a pooooossy snowflake b(tch.
asdfe wrote:
fael wrote:Agreed. What if a women's group bought out the theatre seats, though?
If the theater was rented out for a private event, I would guess it'd be fine. Since this is a public showing, they would need to open up the sales to EVERYONE with equal opportunity. First come, first serve.
Agreed again. And in the grand scheme of life, that transgression doesn't rise to the level of my getting upset. To each his own.
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
Show me a "Men's Night" that hasn't gotten blasted.
There is a hair salon right in the middle of my little college town that is literally called "For Men Only." I have never heard anyone complain about this.
Not an Oppressed Male wrote:
Dare To Be Different wrote:This actually upsets you?
You need more hobbies.
Depends on what you mean by "this".
A women's only screening of WW does not upset me. Good for them.
What upsets me is the double standard of our society.
So go to the movie as a form of protest then.
Such a non-issue... move along nothing to see here.
straw man wrote:
There is a hair salon right in the middle of my little college town that is literally called "For Men Only." I have never heard anyone complain about this.
Actually, come to think of it, my barber shop is called Men's Lounge Barbershop.
At any rate, I'm really excited to see this movie, the actress playing WW is pretty awesome.
This is just capitalism. This whole thing was cooked up as a way to try to get more people to see it. They're afraid women don't want to go to these kinds of movies, period, no matter who is in the theater, and men might not want to see a female superhero either. So, create a fake controversy. Women find out about the movie through seeing this 'controversy' on their Facebook HuffPost feeds and go to support women. Men go to, well, I don't know why, maybe to see if it has a Ladies Night effect?
fael wrote:
asdfe wrote:If the theater was rented out for a private event, I would guess it'd be fine. Since this is a public showing, they would need to open up the sales to EVERYONE with equal opportunity. First come, first serve.
Agreed again. And in the grand scheme of life, that transgression doesn't rise to the level of my getting upset. To each his own.
Oh, I completely agree. I was just trying to answer your questions.
I know that at least one guy has bought and plans to attend this showing anyway. I doubt the theater plans to block his entry. In the end, it's all just a marketing ploy by the theater (which has worked wonderfully, since it's even being discussed here), and likely doesn't actually violate any laws since it's not being implemented in the way it was presented.
it's our fault wrote:
"Men only" events will make sense the day that no reasonably attractive male can leave his home without being aggressively propositioned by fat, ugly women who won't take "no" for an answer. If you want someone to blame for women only events, blame the huge number of men who act like complete creepers, not the women who just want a few hours in public without being openly eye f*cked by some fat 60-year-old.
I suppose you think rape victims are to blame for being raped, also?
fael wrote:
fael wrote:What is the injustice that you feel has occurred?
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
Show me a "Men's Night" that hasn't gotten blasted.
Show me one that has. I asked what injustice has occurred, not which
perceived injustices would occur if you tried to organize something. And when you find an example I will concede that it shouldn't be "blasted", and also acknowledge that this is a very small injustice to befall our gender. Not important enough for me to lose sleep over.
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
How about an all-white college?
Illegal. Also, quite the leap from the above.
Not an Oppressed Man wrote:
Or maybe a Christian wedding cake maker that is allowed to make cakes for weddings they deem legitimate.
Another monumental leap Legal in some states but not in others as sexual orientation isn't a federally protected class. So the injustice here is that you can't discriminate against everyone you want to in every state?
1. I haven't lost sleep over this. See: Augusta Country Club.
2. Black colleges seem just fine. Note: they are ADVERTISED as such.
3. The injustice here is that standards are applied inconsistently. You call it "discrimination"; some call it "redefinition".