Zola Budd > Cain

smartned wrote:

At least Cain isn't a white supremacist living in a racist country like Budd was at the time.

Yeah dude, it was totally her fault that she lived there as a teenager and happened to have white skin.

mary cain will be a junior until december 31st 2015.

so she has the rest of this year, and then 2 more years to move up the junior ranks, she is currently #19 all time junior at 1500

lets see where she is on the junior list, on january 1st 2016, she could improve like crazy and be high up the list, or stagnate or improve a little, just think though if she does not improve at all (and she probably will improve) then she is still faster than any american junior in the 1500 by 5 seconds.

Coach d, coach idiotass. Check the facts, idiot.

Coach d is totally wrong about this.

Doesn't cain live in the most racist city in america, bronxville?

Yes, Bronxville is known mostly for being a bigots' heaven. Should we blame mary for living there like the clowns who blame Zola for being born in SA?

At 25 Cain will wear shades and say "I vant to be alone."

coach d wrote:

The truth is that Budd ran 3:59.96 at almost double Mary's age (29). And Budd's mid distance times are ALREADY within Mary's reach. Mary Decker and Suzy (3:57) you can argue about. Compared to Cain, Budd's a plow horse at the same age.

Didn't Zola set a world record 14:48 when she was 18? And win a couple of world championships before she was 19? Pretty fast plow horse. Also, wasn't she faster than Cain, at the same age? All without NOPing. So her records are ALREADY in reach, but since she is slower than Zola at the same age, doesn't that mean that Zola was better? Zola won the world xc, cain didn't even win the high school xc.

Whenever I see Douglas Burke in a thread I know that at least half the posts are by one dude. I think he's a black guy. He follows elite racing very well, especially women. He posts a lot, using a variety of handles but some seem to recur, like the Douglas Burke one and variations on a fictitious Asian guy named Kevin. He does a lot of rapid fire, conversation style posts where he poses as two people arguing with each other about some elite's racing potential.

This is what I've gathered as a somewhat regular reader of letsrun board posts over the last couple years.

You are an idiot. Budd ran 3:59 in 1985, and since she was born in '66, that would make her 19, not 29.

You know almost as much about athletics as you do about programming.

Titus wrote:

Didn't Zola set a world record 14:48 when she was 18? And win a couple of world championships before she was 19? Pretty fast plow horse. Also, wasn't she faster than Cain, at the same age? All without NOPing. So her records are ALREADY in reach, but since she is slower than Zola at the same age, doesn't that mean that Zola was better? Zola won the world xc, cain didn't even win the high school xc.

Hey smartass... Cain just turned 17 two weeks ago. Let's wait and see what she does in two years before we compare her to Zola Budd. Also, Zola didn't win any World Championship medals, only Cross Country, and that was when she was already around 20.

Zola won two world championship gold medals.

These are Budd's PR's. Can Cain beat these times eventually?

1500 m: 3:59.96

1 Mile: 4:17.57

3000 m: 8:28.83

5000 m: 14:48.07

I saw this on Budd's wiki page!

"Budd's children also compete: at the 2 May 2009 Orangeburg, South Carolina Festival of Roses road race, after winning the women's 12 km. event, she watched her daughter Lisa (17) win the girls 5 km. 12–19 age group at 30:17, followed by her niece Claudia (21) at 31:36."

Those 5K times can't be right? You would think the daughters of Zola fricking Budd could run a 5K a little faster than that!

didnt z budd do a decent masters time in some race lately

zolas ugly

She'll get the 1500 (90% probability)

The mile is harder (means she's as good as Slaney, 50% probability).

The 3K is a little harder (but if she gets the mile she should get this one, 40% probability).

If she gets the first three, she'll get the 5k.

zola budd wrote:

Everyone needs to get off the Cain train. Zola Budd was roughly the same age and running times that would blow Cain out of the water.

Being better or worse than Budd has nothing do to with the fact she's insanely good.

zola budd wrote:

Everyone needs to get off the Cain train. Zola Budd was roughly the same age and running times that would blow Cain out of the water.

Seriously people! Why support one of America's top young talents when we could be cheering for Zola Budd instead? I heard Zola will be running at Pre!