I mainly played basketball in high school. Track was afterthought so she beat me ... my mile was 4:32. But I ran 13:39 later- doubt she can touch that.
I mainly played basketball in high school. Track was afterthought so she beat me ... my mile was 4:32. But I ran 13:39 later- doubt she can touch that.
I am honored to be the rare poster who admits Mary Cain is faster than me. Much faster, I might add.
What's her 400 PR, that's all I did back then.
All time best is only 4:05.2 HT so, wow, she wins and someday will beat all of my other PBs.
Didn't run in HS, except for PE mile so she beats me there.
Still beats me now too be a decent deal, got a ways to go.
why does she have a forward lean-hunch in her back, or does she just pose like that for the cameras unconsiously?
she better all hs pr's
800 205
mile 427
2 mile 948
not sure about by 3 mile..1501..twice
Why would you call BS on that? A junior running 3:52 is very possible.
I was going to add what another poster did.
Most people do more than one sport in high school.
For all this talk about how training with a group is an advantage, I am a far superior runner training individually now than I was training on a team in high school.
I wouldn't be surprised if I could run around those times if I seriously trained for shorter events, but road racing is about the long races, so it's not my goal.
It's amazing what she's doing. I ran 1:57/4:21 as a Junior, so I'd like to think I would've beaten her. By the way, I was recruited and ran D1 (small percentage scholarship) based mostly off Jr. year XC and these track times.
uisiusjhidjhj wrote:
NJ Possible wrote:What's her mile/1600m PB or equivalent?
1600m would be about 4:21, so mile 4:22 or 4:23 or so. I could have taken her as a junior in high school, no problem. I'd draft off her for the first 3 laps then smoke her with my 51 sec quarter relay time at that age.
her mile converts to 4:24. I was about that fast a soph. injured and sick as a junior. Came back strong as a senior so.....she has a ways to go to get me next year. She"ll have to be #1 in the world. She might do it (probably not though, it would be another big jump). It blows my mind we are even discussing this possibility (A hs girl being nearly as good as hs boys who were fastest in their states/regions of the country for their senior year)
Cain is Abel wrote:
I'd say about 80 percent. I had her beat by ~12 seconds.
I was slower -- 2:03, 4:32, 9:48.
She's unreal.
In high school:
800: 2:12
1600: 5:07
3200: 10:19
Obviously never ran a 1600 very well when completely fresh; but either way, she would have SMOKED me!
In college:
800: 1:58
1500: 4:03
3000: 8:54
Surprisingly even match, overall.
Post college I have the edge, with a 3:55 1500; it will be interesting to see what her ceiling is!
MontrealMiler wrote:
Why would you call BS on that? A junior running 3:52 is very possible.
Possible, but very unlikely (I was using the power of statistics to my advantage). Only a handful achieve that on a yearly basis (sometimes none).
Cain is Abel wrote:
I'd say about 80 percent. I had her beat by ~12 seconds.
80 percent?! Are you trolling? More like 98-99.5%. I had a slight edge over 800m, but her 1600m and 3200m times are far superior to my own.
I would have beaten her in my races (100/200 and sometimes 400).
I would guess I was a lot faster than Mary Cain when I was in high school. I ran 4:31 for the 1600, and that was 13 years ago. Mary Cain was only a couple years old. She probably wasn't very fast.
But she's much faster than I am now. Life is cyclical.
She would have buried me in high school. I ran a 1500 for pent in 4:18.
RuKiddingMe!! wrote:
that's not true
....not everyone in high school was slower?.....at some point yes, but that was not the question
Ah, but it WAS the question.
100%
how man 4:30 guys could run 4:10 or lower if Salazar took them in? Thats what I wonder. Would a male have a similar progression if starting from the same time performane?
JInjnjin wrote:
MontrealMiler wrote:Why would you call BS on that? A junior running 3:52 is very possible.
Possible, but very unlikely (I was using the power of statistics to my advantage). Only a handful achieve that on a yearly basis (sometimes none).
If you want to compare junior times then only 7 seconds.
That's pretty depressing.