Oh, are they?
Oh, are they?
Why would you continue to watch his movies if you haven't like any of them? I mean, I don't like Michael Bay's movies, but I'm not going to go watch Transformers 11 just to make sure.
Anyway, Wes Anderson movies all have the same sense of humor. If you don't get that humor you're going to think they're boring, obviously. No need to make a big deal about it.
I appreciate what he does, but I don't know, I would like it if he switched things up with a different style every now and then. But I really do appreciate what he does.
As Renato would say, "It's not (bottle) rocket science." Film is an art form - just like dance or music. I love reggae, don't care for jazz. Love Tarantino, could live without Bergman. Can't do Poe or Shakespeare. No account'in for taste...
wes anderson movies are difficult because the plot is only a vehicle to get towards the end goal. the end goal is to question why most of that stuff is in the movie in the first place. why does wes anderson put this piece of pop culture in this particular scene? why do the crew members of the life aquatic all have matching gear that is completely unrealistic in our time? why are all the adults in the royal tenembaums utterly absurd?
the movies he creates are basically a statement and he gives some evidence as to why the statement is true by way of the plot and cinematography.
it's not exactly what was written in the first bit, but it kind of negotiates meta- out of the original bit
hopefully you all have seen the kanyewesanderson tumblr account.
Great director. Enjoyed all his movies, I think. Favorites are Life Aquatic and Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Bill Murray's acting in Life Aquatic is one of the best
Loved Fantastic Mr Fox and Moonrise Kingdom. Really liked Royal Tenenbaums. Not much of a fan of his other ones.
Weary wrote:
Some of you talk about getting or not getting Wes Anderson movies and suggest that you either like them all or you don't like them at all. That's just silly.
"Moonrise Kingdom" is brilliant and one of the freshest cinematic ideas I've seen in years. "The Life Aquatic" ...is not.
I agree with your first sentence and disagree with your second. I think The Life Aquatic is a cinematic masterpiece (so is Moonrise Kingdom).
A quick note about Bottle Rocket. Bottle Rocket is a different kind of film. It is an action heist movie that was written in college with Owen Wilson. A great comedy, but more mocking than cerebral. The scenes with the brother are just phenomenal. You know they are based on someone; I wonder who?
I'm surprised none of you liked Darjeeling. I thought that was the best. The dynamic between the brothers is hilarious but also sort of touching. I like too how Wes Anderson connects kids to adults. In his world, which I fluctuate between thinking is and isn't representative of our world, there is often very little different between adults and kids beyond age and a label. Anyways, my favorites are Darjeeling, Royal Tenenbaums, Moonrise Kingdom, and Fantastic Mr. Fox. Did not like Bottle Rocket really.
Rushmore was good but the rest of his movies are only liked by those pseudo movie intellectual types. And they only like it because other posers told them to.
Taco Truck wrote:
Rushmore was good but the rest of his movies are only liked by those pseudo movie intellectual types. And they only like it because other posers told them to.
And your statement is typically made by non-intellectuals who feel threatened by pseudo-intellectuals.
...but you're right. No one likes Wes Anderson movies. There is nothing to like. Cinematography and production design are terrible. The precocious children and their situations/relationships evoke no emotion from viewers. It is kind of like how Salinger's Glass children were only liked by pseudo-intellectuals, not coming-of-age readers discovering a love of literature. It is kind of like the Emperor Wears No Clothes: No one really likes them, they just say they like them.
Good theory, taco.
I don't usually get emotional while watching movies, and I actually tuned out a few times during the second half of Moonrise, because it got to be a little ridiculous and kind of boring, but the last scene of that movie made my eyes water a little bit.
I'm a pseudo intellectual. I like Wes Anderson movies because other posers told me NOT to.
Taco Truck wrote:
Rushmore was good but the rest of his movies are only liked by those pseudo movie intellectual types. And they only like it because other posers told them to.
john berryman wrote:
why do the crew members of the life aquatic all have matching gear that is completely unrealistic in our time?
Uniforms are a common theme in most (all? I haven't seen his more recent films) his films. Haven't put a ton of thought into it, but I would assume it could relate to chaos/imperfection within conformity.
Bottle Rocket-Yellow jumpsuits
Rushmore- School Uniforms
Royal Tenenbaums- Red Tracksuits
The Life Aquatic- Red beanies and blue outfits
Darjeeling Limited- The three brother's outfits, train workers
Moonrise Kingdom(haven't seen it)- Scout Uniforms
Fantastic Mr. Fox was awesome
Dafoed wrote:
john berryman wrote:why do the crew members of the life aquatic all have matching gear that is completely unrealistic in our time?
Uniforms are a common theme in most (all? I haven't seen his more recent films) his films. Haven't put a ton of thought into it, but I would assume it could relate to chaos/imperfection within conformity.
Bottle Rocket-Yellow jumpsuits
Rushmore- School Uniforms
Royal Tenenbaums- Red Tracksuits
The Life Aquatic- Red beanies and blue outfits
Darjeeling Limited- The three brother's outfits, train workers
Moonrise Kingdom(haven't seen it)- Scout Uniforms
interesting question - bravo for thinking of it.
I think one reason for the uniforms is the wild need for people in anderson films to belong to a group, but that is hard because they are misfits.
I think he really hits on many peoples' wishes to be on close terms with people, and how rare that is in people who tend to like anderson films.
rushmore - max's alienation from school, balanced by the school play with people in uniforms, fighting together.
tenenbaums - oddball family, but with similar sensibilities
aquatic - a band of misfit rogues with a charismatic leader
darjeeling - similar to tenenbaums - brothers, cults,
moonrise - boy clearly alineated from scout culture, but wants to fit in. sort of.
fox - the kid who is a bad whackball player but is trying to live up to a past relative.
I could write this more eloquently, but I think that gets to the point. Anderson often sets up a frictional relationship between his characters being oddball misfits but wanting to be in a close band.
...and the plot turns on whether that balance can be found.
Dafoed wrote:
john berryman wrote:why do the crew members of the life aquatic all have matching gear that is completely unrealistic in our time?
Uniforms are a common theme in most (all? I haven't seen his more recent films) his films. Haven't put a ton of thought into it, but I would assume it could relate to chaos/imperfection within conformity.
Bottle Rocket-Yellow jumpsuits
Rushmore- School Uniforms
Royal Tenenbaums- Red Tracksuits
The Life Aquatic- Red beanies and blue outfits
Darjeeling Limited- The three brother's outfits, train workers
Moonrise Kingdom(haven't seen it)- Scout Uniforms
Yeah, Wes Anderson uses a lot of recurring objects, etc. Another common theme throughout some of his his films that I noticed is BB guns. I am sure there is some underlying significance to this, not sure what though.
Rushmore: Max ambushes Mangus with a BB gun to get him to act in his play.
Royal Tenenbaums: Royal shoots Chas in the hand and the BB stays lodged in his hand for 20 years.
Moonrise Kingdom: Sam carries a BB gun with him when he runs away from his scout troop with Suzie and has to use it during the Lord of The Flies-esque fight with the other scouts.
I have Rushmore amongst my top films. I think it's just fantastic. Some films of his are better than others, and while not always having a plot that goes from A to B in a way a lot of movie watchers prefer, usually showcase someone ability to change in a way most filmmakers can't.