Frank Horwell mentioned about Pre's workout in a British Milers Club Journal. He was one of the few that didn't buy into that hype-too much recovery!
Frank Horwell mentioned about Pre's workout in a British Milers Club Journal. He was one of the few that didn't buy into that hype-too much recovery!
Horwill went on to point out that in 5K you don't get ANY rest. Doing 3-4 X 800 with somewhere between 2 and 4 minutes recovery is more specific for the mile. If the numbers quoted are correct, I believe Rupp's is actually slower than what Pre ran.
I sense more excuses coming shortly.
Pre did not ever run a workout anywhere close to that. I read his biography, and no, he was not approaching a 4 min. mile 3 times in a workout. He would sometimes run a sub 4 minute mile in practice as a rust buster, but he never did more than one. I doubt he could have averaged under 4:10 for a 3 by mile.
In other words wrote:
3xmile @ 3k pace with 15 min rest. Not outta this world for Rupp.
well, when you put it that way, it doesn't sound as cool.
bangalangadanga wrote:
In other words wrote:3xmile @ 3k pace with 15 min rest. Not outta this world for Rupp.
well, when you put it that way, it doesn't sound as cool.
Lol agreed
Rupputation wrote:
This was the message I got from a friend who trains with Salazar. I am not going to repeat who my friend is for her protection. So don't even ask. But this is the report of the workout. 3x 1600 in 4:02,4:01,3:59 with 15 minute rest between repeats.
1. You think you're hiding anyone's identity by not giving a name, yet you give other details to narrow it down? How many female runners were stadning around watching and timing Rupp's workout (or getting told his times after)? Either you're lying, or you just blew your friend's cover.
2. Foolish workout with that ridiculous rest. A 3000 TT would be more interesting and a better stimulus.
Canova>God wrote:
What did he do for those 15 minutes?
Bang wrote:
went on LetsRun
Bing wrote:
...and started this thread.
...and reposted under different names.
Rupputation wrote:
3x 1600 in 4:02,4:01,3:59 with 15 minute rest between repeats.
"1600"? As homer might say:.....pffft.
For a second there I had thought you said MI-le. I was almost impressed.
If this is true it seems like they are gunning specifically for the 3k race vs Dejen and using the BU mile as a shorter race to prepare and not trying 100% to break 3:50. If he can run 3:53, I expect him to get darn close to 7:30 for 3k. In 3-4 years Salazar will be coaching the best in the world from 1500 to marathon. That is just sick.
So this person on the internet posted that some other person saw this workout and told the first person.
And wrote "JUST SAW RUPP RUN THIS WORKOUT "
Well the OP didn't just see that.
Who cares what Pre did in workouts? It obviously wasn't tough enough to beat the europeans. For all his supposed guts, he didn't have have the guts to train hard.
Does this mean that Rupp will go to europe and get smoked in every race from high school till he's an old man?
Wow calling out PRE!... what kind of 5k times do trolls have? Very amusing shooting mouths off because their running guns have no ammo.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:2. Foolish workout with that ridiculous rest. A 3000 TT would be more interesting and a better stimulus.
I don't know whether the workout is good or bad, and I've certainly never done a workout with rest intervals that long. But at a certain point, when the coach's athletes win two golds and a silver at one Olympics, I'm willing to suspend my judgement. After all, my sense of what a "good" workout is ultimately derives from the accumulated observations of generations of coaches and athletes about what workouts lead to the fastest races. Race results are the only real measure of whether a training program is "good."
It's possible that Rupp and Farah are unbelievable freaks who finished first and second at the Olympics despite Salazar's "foolish" workouts. But it would be quite a coincidence.
When you are close to a meet where you are preparing to run fast, you want to practice running fast, which requires rest in between intervals. With said, that is a great workout.
3x Mile workout before a Mile race seems long(ish) and better suited as someone just noted for a nice 3k/5k effort soon. With that said - Rupp's strength continues to get better. Predict a 3:53.6 for the upcoming mile but something "nuts" later for a longer race effort.
3-4x 800 at Mile goal pace would suit him better for a "real" PR effort.
Cheers
yeah man. you are spot on. well said
runner85 wrote:
If this is true it seems like they are gunning specifically for the 3k race vs Dejen and using the BU mile as a shorter race to prepare and not trying 100% to break 3:50. If he can run 3:53, I expect him to get darn close to 7:30 for 3k. In 3-4 years Salazar will be coaching the best in the world from 1500 to marathon. That is just sick.
might elicit a better vo2max response by preceding each one with an 800 in about 2:10-15. interesting workout, for sure.
northwest master wrote:
3x Mile workout before a Mile race seems long(ish) and better suited as someone just noted for a nice 3k/5k effort soon. With that said - Rupp's strength continues to get better. Predict a 3:53.6 for the upcoming mile but something "nuts" later for a longer race effort.
3-4x 800 at Mile goal pace would suit him better for a "real" PR effort.
Cheers
I would think Rupp's "A goal" is the 3000m at USATF indoor championships and World Indoor, both in early March. He does quite a few indoor mile races in the lead up but they're more preparation than goal. Any PR at the mile is incidental.