NYC Marathon on ESPN2 - SERIOUSLY???

Xfitguy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

So apparently the NYC Marathon 2012 will be shown on ESPN2. My initial thought regarding this was: WHY? Then I thought some more about it. And still I think: WHY?

Virtually no one is going to watch some several thousand hobby joggers slog thru the 5 boroughs. There is a reason why all major networks have stopped televising T&F long time ago. NO ONE CARES.

TV time would be much better spend to show another repeat of this years glorious CROSSFIT games, an event where, you know, REAL MAN compete. Yes, real man with muscles.

There is a good solution for Marathons, show a webcast or something. But don't waste airtime on that.

Dude, here is your reality check (Nielson Ratings).

CROSSFIT

2012 Reebok Crossfit Games (10:00) - ESPN2

0.352 million viewers, #15; 0.181 million adults 18-49 (0.1 rating), #15

2012 Reebok Crossfit Games (10:30) - ESPN2

0.318 million viewers, #16; 0.160 million adults 18-49 (0.1 rating), #16

TRACK AND FIELD

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating/Share Viewers (Millions)

7:00 NBC U.S. Olympic Trials 1.2/4 4.48

This was actually down 20% from the Track Olympic Trials in 2008, but, still TWELVE TIMES Crossfit.

Just the facts.

Now that was Track and Field and marathon jogging is marathon jogging. Even the WR holder in the marathon runs half as fast as Usain Bolt does. Does anybody REALLY care about WATCHING marathons (outside the posters on this website)?

But Crossfit is not exactly ready to take on Track and Field, Swimming, Gymnastics, Figure Skating, Skiing and such.

Seems to me that crosfitters and marathoners are basically the pot calling the kettle black.

A pretty good critique of Crossfit

http://www.nsca.com/ContentTemplates/PublicationArticleDetail.aspx?id=2147485592

The comparison is not really all that fair.

1) Trials were broadcast on "free" TV

2) They are the OLYMPIC trials

However, the following is more applicable and interesting to me

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2012/04/boston-marathon-draws-strong-numbers-for-wbz-tv

Total Viewers: Elite race coverage averaged 143,400 viewers and peaked as the elite runners finished 12:00-12:15PM with 224,400 viewers.

Note that these numbers are for the 2012 Boston Marathon from just Boston. It was also on a Monday (granted a holiday there). So one city alone had 2/3s of the audience of a Crossfit.

Also,Crossfit is artificial, made up, contrived. Running is probably the oldest sport know to man (sex is not a sport). I gotta think even in the earliest days of humans and our ancestors one guy turned to another and challenged him to a race to a tree or the race to get to food.

I have lots of issues with Crossfit. It will fade out and then come back in some form 10 years later. The claims in some videos are just amazing. However, the followers are like religious zealots--actually more like radical Muslims in that they would seemingly kill you for blaspheming their religion.

i don't see it fading out. for some reason it has an appeal to women, and surprise, surprise, when women do any form of physical activity, they look good. so they're gonna tell all their friends about it, etc.

really women just need to not sit around on their ass and eat like a pig and they'll look good

if anything, in 10 years once all these former crossfitters can't walk anymore from screwing up their backs doing shitty quality oly lifts for reps/time, it might fade out then once people realize how poorly taught/coached so many of the gyms are

The original poster is likely a troll.As for this poster:

nyrr is wrote:

it means nyrr had to produce the tv production itself and rent a time slot on EPSN2 due to no interest from tv stations.

I think you're wrong. ESPN is providing 2 of its Sports Center anchors to lead the broadcast. This is different even than the old Boston Marathon broadcasts on ESPN2.

Providing the anchors means ESPN this is more than a time buy and ESPN sees this as a venture it can make money on. If that's the case you'll likely see pre-race coverage and post-race coverage on SportsCenter as ESPN favors what it broadcast.

Don't feed the stupid ass troll.

luv2run wrote:

Running is probably the oldest sport know to man (sex is not a sport).

Maybe not the way you're doing it.

wejo wrote:

The original poster is likely a troll.

Can you ban that guy? I don't know if it's a runner trying (and failing) to be funny, or a real crossfit guy being a tool, but in either case it adds nothing positive in any way.

There's a reason Crosscocktard isn't shown on mainstream television. It's the same reason Benny Hinn in on at 4am. Nobody but you, gives two halves of a rat's shit. Reread that sentence. Done? Good. Onto paragraph two.

Let's recap. You - flipping over tyres and making homoerotic noises as you FEEL the elite coursing through your anus. Elite marathon runner - sprinting for 23.2 miles.

At this point, I'd like to go over what we've learned today, just to make sure it's really sunk in. You - pullups with more lateral movement than vertical. Heterosexuals - dead hang, haul up, repeat despite oversize testicles.

I really feel like we're getting somewhere today. But before we get ahead of ourselves and start sucking each other's dicks, I'd like to bring up Crossestrogen's lovely habit of naming workouts. I see it helps you lot keep track, like a nametag on a special-school kid (don't go getting lost now), but in a fight to the death between 'Martika' and '19 mile tempo run', well, I guess we can clearly see who's taking it up the tradesman's entrance in THAT relationship.

Here's some ammo, cause I'm pretty sure that left you staring blankly. I do pullups and pushups every day, without fail. Why? Functional fitness. A man should be able to handle his own bodyweight through space, and lift his own bodyweight off the floor, repeatedly. Know what gets this done for me? Go on, take a guess. All done? A ten minute break at the halfway point of my long run, and as a way of breaking up of crosstraining in the gym. And I feel bad for breaking my long run to fritter minutes away on such a frivolous pursuit. What you do is a minor and relatively easily achievable carnival act. My dad was a brickie's labourer. You guys are middle-class twerps who could get exactly the same workout availing yourself to a master builder for a few months, and I absolutely kid you not.

You keep going for gold, and please keep up the troll posts. Mere bread, water and occasionally lurking your forums would not be enough to sustain me otherwise.

luv2run wrote:

Running is probably the oldest sport know to man (sex is not a sport).

lulz I bet this guy doesn't even do burpees when he changes from one position to another. if i'm goin doggy and then call for a switch to reverse cowgirl, I can get at least 10 burpees in during the transition.

26.2 miles. My finger slipped, which is odd because I don't recall putting lube on it at all. You Crossfitters are sneaky motherf*ckers. Always trying to recruit into your goddamn cult. Hetero sex needs no lube. You can save money that way.

An Engineer wrote:

Can you ban that guy? I don't know if it's a runner trying (and failing) to be funny, or a real crossfit guy being a tool, but in either case it adds nothing positive in any way.

Crossfit all the way. But I also have a natural gift to run fast and have had great success with crossfit style sprint repeats (hence my other thread on this board). I want to help you guys, as I pointed out before. I will not stop before I reach my goal.

This is annoying.... I don't even want to justify this with an answer becuase I don't argue with fools. I didn't like cross fit, but I didn't have anything against it. Now I really don't care for it.

Go somewhere else man, I'm sorry that you don't get to see all of your buddies in baggy clothes lift a tire, go on the monkey bars, and ride a bike that goes no where on a football field where real sports are played. I would rather watch Olympic Basketball where you already know who the winner is than see some chick that has bigger legs than me and could probably crush my head.

Xfitguy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

I would love to see those Kenyan runners trying to overturn a truck tire. Haha. Not happening.

Sure.

But that's a pretty useless skill from a practical standpoint in 99% of situations. If you want to do be able to do such things and it means something to you, that's awesome.

I dunno, you have a strange attitude about things. "REAL MEN" and "MUSCLES" in capitals? Not sure I see a correlation. Is Galen Rupp somehow less of a man in your world view than Ronnie Coleman?

If so...well that IS truly a unique perspective.

Ok running community, tell me, what's so great about 50,000 people slogging through the city in 6-8 hours. I could WALK faster than that. And yes, that includes my backpack. And still no one would want to see that.

Nothing. Which is probably why no one watches it.

I think the only thing on here people are about are the guys running sub 4:50 pace competing for the win.

LM wrote:

> I would love to see those Kenyan runners trying to

> overturn a truck tire. Haha. Not happening.

But that's a pretty useless skill from a practical standpoint in 99% of situations.

Please tell me you're trolling. Seriously. Strength is required in many day to day activities, like moving a drawer, yard work, ... when was the last time your running came in handy from a practical standpoint.

"Oh honey, we're out of orange juice, would you mind running 10 miles to the next Walmart?"

Bro, seriously.

Xfitguy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

LM wrote:

> I would love to see those Kenyan runners trying to

> overturn a truck tire. Haha. Not happening.

But that's a pretty useless skill from a practical standpoint in 99% of situations.

Please tell me you're trolling. Seriously. Strength is required in many day to day activities, like moving a drawer, yard work, ... when was the last time your running came in handy from a practical standpoint.

"Oh honey, we're out of orange juice, would you mind running 10 miles to the next Walmart?"

Bro, seriously.

It wasn't implied that running was useful from a practical standpoint.

Sure, strength is required in day to day situations just as aerobic fitness is. The thing is, unless you have specific jobs that demand it the amount needed from either is absurdly small.

It doesn't take truck tire lifting abilities to mow your lawn, close drawers, move a file cabinet, or any other daily task; just as it doesn't take 2:10 marathon abilities to walk across the parking lot and up 4 flights of stairs to your office.

nyrr is wrote:

it means nyrr had to produce the tv production itself and rent a time slot on EPSN2 due to no interest from tv stations.

That's not true. The combined WABC/ABC/ESPN2 deal generated a 7-figure rights fee for the race, allowed it to be shown live on television throughout the USA. It is not a time buy.

David Monti, Professional Athletes Consultant

New York Road Runners

Xfitguy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

... when was the last time your running came in handy from a practical standpoint.

"Oh honey, we're out of orange juice, would you mind running 10 miles to the next Walmart?"

Bro, seriously.

In fact just a few weeks ago I was about to head out on a Sunday run when my long suffering wife asked that I swing by a few appliance stores and compare gas ranges. That loop was about 14 miles. Two weeks ago she asked me to fetch some tickets a friend had picked up for us on my cruise interval day. Just this past weekend she asked me to pick something up at the grocery, but it's near the end of my route less than a mile from home. I can't recall the last time she's needed a tractor tire flipped.

Troll on, bro.

Xfitguy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

Please tell me you're trolling. Seriously. Strength is required in many day to day activities, like moving a drawer, yard work, ... when was the last time your running came in handy from a practical standpoint.

"Oh honey, we're out of orange juice, would you mind running 10 miles to the next Walmart?"

Bro, seriously.

Bro, did you watch Zombieland? Lifting a tire wasn't on the list of rules, cardio was. BOOM, defeated.