Not a joke: running the mile every day as fast as I can until I drop.

I usually spell better than above, maybe it affected my brain, then = than, works = work.

You ran massively positive splits and you want to push faster earlier?

This is going to be painful to read. In a good way.

These could get boring. I think you should mix in a beer mile once a week-just for laughs.

I think this will be very interesting. I will be looking forward to seeing the results each night

run to the limit wrote:

Day 1:

3 mile warm up.

Mile:

62

63

68

78 = 4:31

3 mile cool down.

Excellent! Wonderful idea and first attempt! I didn't get this at first, but it is becoming more clear and really very interesting.

With a lap to go, you were at 3:13. I think you might be onto something quite valuable here, especially since you think you ran the third lap 68 too slow. Let's say you pass the 3/4 point in 3:10-3:15 most days, I think you start adapting to the training stress and start shaving seconds off of that 78. Take off ten, progressively, and you are at 4:21. The boldness of this is appealing. It's countercultural with much of present day training, but it could well be a training advance.

Good luck, man. I'll be checking periodically to see how it is going.

I like the plan and will be rooting for you.

What about adding a 40 lb weighted vest? Then you would be turning your challenge into ideal marathon training. It would bring your mile time down to 3:42 and marathon time to 1:59.

so you ran a PR on day 1? Hopefully that is not the highlight of the training routine. Will be curious to see.

I'm rooting for you, man. Well, I'm rooting to see something interesting I guess. I can't see you doing this for more than five days straight but I'm happy to watch you try.

How had you not run faster than 4:36 if you were able to run a 4:31 going 2:05/2:26?

What was your training leading up to this like?

I would be much more interested if you trained normally and smashed one mile every weekend. Maybe throw in the odd 800m for shits and giggles.

Start a blog about this immediately. Daily updates are necessary. You probably have more attention from the Lets Run community than the election does.

GIVE'R

Like so many others in this day and age, what you call a mile is most likely not a mile. You are almost certainly running short, i.e., 1600m (4 laps on a 400 meter track).

If this training method works I am going to start doing this to bring down my marathon time.

markboen wrote:

Like so many others in this day and age, what you call a mile is most likely not a mile. You are almost certainly running short, i.e., 1600m (4 laps on a 400 meter track).

Probably but so what. Do a 1.4 second conversion if you must.

subsub wrote:

If this training method works I am going to start doing this to bring down my marathon time.

By running a mile or by running a full-fledge marathon every day? That might be rough to maintain.

Methinks he is in jest

well, this is let's run, so a 1 mile/day plan is really 5 miles/day including warmup and warmdown. wait, don't forget those secret uncounted 7 mile morning runs. 1/day = 85 miles/week at least...

one of the interesting things about this idea of using daily time trials to build fitness is that it has some merit. a mile run is a fine VO2peak workout and it would be interesting to look at data testing the approach -- even if it is only short-term. and for runners in the 1950's this is not all that much different from how runners (especially 800 and 1500m) were apt to train. if the training were structured this way, what pace might be sustainable or optimal?

1 x mile at 5000m effort might bring better results than all out miles. and you could improve the effect of the pattern by licking 400m hard, or running 200m hard/ 200m float etc... basically moving towards interval training or adding variation to cover all the bases.

every workout is a bit of a test, a trial. it might be hard or light effort or whatever effort but all the pieces fit together. a useful training schedule is in many respects, a single test workout also, the parts summing to a whole.

shinsplints in 3, 2, 1[quote]run to the limit wrote: