Stacked Zurich DL 5k!!

paris wrote:

I think it would be ridiculous to not consider the dominant world and Olympic champion as the global number one.*

I'm sure if we asked the athletes themselves who they consider as the best it'd be Mr Farah.

*Unless someone goes mad and pulls out a sub 12:40 or something, and I really don't see that happening.

If we just hand the world ranking to whomever won the Olympics then what's the point?

Farah won in Eugene, London and the Olympics. One of those was fast - 12:56 in Eugene.

Gebremeskel won in Oslo and Paris and got second in London. Oslo was pretty fast. Paris was one of the fastest races in history. If he would win in Zurich in another fantastic time like sub 12:50 then he would be only the 2nd person in history to run sub-12:50 twice in the same season (some guy named Bekele is the other). So IF he does that then I think he could be under consideration as #1 in the 5k. You could still give it to Farah but at least you could make an argument.

Remember, other races don't count when you are ranking the 5k. Farah is indisputably the best distance runner from 3k-10k right now but I think Gebremeskel could challenge him at 5k.

1 1808 Great Britain FARAH Mohamed 13:41.66 +

2 1688 Ethiopia GEBREMESKEL Dejen 13:41.98 +

3 2310 Kenya LONGOSIWA Thomas Pkemei 13:42.36

He did challenge him, but he lost. Try again

UCLA 250 Olympic Medals wrote:

Unfortunately you can't win a major medal at only a DL meet.

I'm sure they consider it a major award, probably put it in their window or something.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:I sure hope so. It will prove my point about last week's "bronchitis" being utter BS.

You are a complete moron aren't you? So if he's recovered and runs well, it proves your point. If he's not recovered and doesn't run well, then it proves he was telling the truth?

This is like the test to see if someone is a witch...throwing them in the water to see if they float. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. You'd fit in well with the intellects 300 years ago.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

I think Rupp has made a remarkable recovery from the bout of "bronchitis" that kept him from finishing 1500 last week.

Ugh. We know what you're going to say before you say it. It gets old. Too bad your recovery from being a butthole has not been as quick.

This is likely to be a great opportunity to break the AR, which is probably why Rupp didn't finish the 1500 if he had any niggling problems.

categorically wrote:

I think it would be hard not to consider Gebremeskel as the #1 ranked 5k runner this year if he runs under 12:50 and wins again. Sure, he lost to Mo in the Olympics but Farah wasn't in Paris and won't be in Zurich.

Yes, Gebremeskel definitely #1 for 2012. No question about it.

paris wrote:

I think it would be ridiculous to not consider the dominant world and Olympic champion as the global number one.

The olympics had a 5k?

What was the time?

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:I sure hope so. It will prove my point about last week's "bronchitis" being utter BS.

Mrr82 wrote:

You are a complete moron aren't you?

No, in fact I am a genius.

Mrr82 wrote:

So if he's recovered and runs well, it proves your point. If he's not recovered and doesn't run well, then it proves he was telling the truth?

This is like the test to see if someone is a witch...throwing them in the water to see if they float. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. You'd fit in well with the intellects 300 years ago.

You truly are a moron.

I said that if he runs an AR barely a week after allegedly having "bronchitis" so severe he was "coughing up a lung" (the fanboys' words, not mine) and couldn't even finish a 1500, it will be hard to believe the excuses from Birmingham. This is especially true since Rupp has DNSed or DNFed most of his DL races in recent seasons. Check for yourself.

If he runs poorly, perhaps the "bronchitis" is as bad as we were led to believe. I could completely accept that. He certainly can't be cooked from over-racing, since he takes the line half as much as his competition. However, I would find it ard to believe the greatest coach on earth doesn't know if his athlete of a decade is (a) ready for 5000m AR or (b) so sick he can barely finish 1500.

Rupp wasn't going to place well in the 1500, so he did what he always does in those situations and DNFed. Certainly not the first time it's happened, and sure as hell won't be the last.

sc42 wrote:

Ugh. We know what you're going to say before you say it. It gets old. Too bad your recovery from being a butthole has not been as quick.

This is likely to be a great opportunity to break the AR, which is probably why Rupp didn't finish the 1500 if he had any niggling problems.

"Butthole"? Right. Thanks for confirming my assertion that you are either less than 13 years old or suffer from a cognitive deficit. I don't think I've even heard the word "butthole" since I was 12 (except, of course, for your mom telling me where to put various things).

Glad you agree that the severity of Rupp's "bronchitis" was not actually "coughing up a lung" (as the fanboys said) but a "niggling problem" I have suggested it was all along. Imagine the damage that two laps would have done to poor Galen!

[quote]rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

"Butthole"? Right. Thanks for confirming my assertion that you are either less than 13 years old or suffer from a cognitive deficit. I don't think I've even heard the word "butthole" since I was 12 (except, of course, for your mom telling me where to put various things).

Wow. The guy who gets after the other guy for being juvenile because he used the word "butthole" then starts in with the mom jokes. Brilliant thread, fellas.

78787 wrote:

Wow. The guy who gets after the other guy for being juvenile because he used the word "butthole" then starts in with the mom jokes.

Don't worry. When you're older you will understand irony. Or not.

78787 wrote:

Brilliant thread, fellas.

Look where you are, smart guy. Lower your expectations when reading any webpage spelling its own title wrong (Zurish!) and you will find things make more sense. Butthole.

oh, you were trying to be ironic. (sure you were, guy.)

Watch out for yigrem demelash,.. He is a rising star. Sub 13 will be a major sign

78787 wrote:

oh, you were trying to be ironic. (sure you were, guy.)

Thought it was pretty obvious, between the context of the comment I was ridiculing (butthole) and my DIRECTLY REFERRING TO THAT COMMENT. Sorry it was lost on you. Now STFU and make a post that mentions running.

One thing I can tell you (again) is that Salazar doesn't tell lies.

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Well, if you can tell me that Alberto doesn't tell lies, then that's good enough for me. Glad we cleared that up.

One thing for sure, this race is going to show who is skilled at peaking. The winner and top finishers will have pulled off one of the following:

A) Two major peaks over a three month period

B) Holding a major peak over a three month period

I also note that Imane Merga is in the race. He's been under 13:00 this year. He has to be hungry, yes? I bet he's filing his elbows to points. Against my better judgement, I've become something of a Merga fan.

I'm just really perplexed why Farah isn't running in Zurich. He's in a three way tie with Gebremeskel and Gebrhiwet for the DL lead. Isiah Koech is one point back. Those three are in the race. Whoever wins will win the DL title and $40,000.

There are plenty on this board who are sure Farah would win any race against any of these guys so that seems like an easy 40k to pocket. Not to mention that he would probably get a very nice appearance fee just to show up. Did Birmingham really pay him so much just to run a watered down 2-mile that it was worth it to skip Zurich?

I understand he might want to stay at home with his newborn kids. Is that really worth 40k?

categorically wrote:

I understand he might want to stay at home with his newborn kids. Is that really worth 40k?

Farah got offered WAY more than that just to line up at Birmingham:

Webster. wrote:

Farah got offered WAY more than that just to line up at Birmingham:

http://gulfnews.com/sport/athletics/blake-s-manager-fumes-at-insulting-offer-1.1064995

They should be able to find a 14 minute 5k in england.

No doubt Farah got more than 40k to appear in Birmingham. But he'd have to get 40k more than he was offered in Zurich. Plus the race in Birmingham was slow so there's no reason he couldn't run both and really cash in.

The article says Bolt is getting 300k per race. I'll take a guess and say that Zurich also offered Farah that much since he's a popular european athlete with two gold medals.

Then Birmingham would have to offer him 350k to make it worth it. That's $28 for every one of the 12,500 people in the crowd! Even if he only get's half the offer of Bolt - 150k - Birmingham would have to give him 200k or $16 per fan.

How much were the tickets? How is this economically tenable? No wonder they couldn't afford to put together a decent field for that 2-mile.