Wow this thread has pretty much nothing to do with Galen Rupp running 145 miles per week after the first few posts.
Wow this thread has pretty much nothing to do with Galen Rupp running 145 miles per week after the first few posts.
Jopomofo wrote:
No way is he training harder than anyone else in the world. That's an ignorant statement. Go to Kenya and then make that statement after seeing them training for World Cross. He has every possible advantage. Not even close to how hard Cam Levins trained this year as a full time student.
There is a difference between training hard and running a lot of miles.
Way off topic... wrote:
Wow this thread has pretty much nothing to do with Galen Rupp running 145 miles per week after the first few posts.
Sorry bout that. I disagreed with someone that elite runners training hard is a given and that set them off.
the notion about the 90's is wrong, of course.
the simple truth is we have faster runners
in the distances now.
Kennedy was talking about intensity of Kenyan training, not volume.
the most successful US distance runner of our time
runs half as much as that 145/week, not high volume at all.
Truth is Rupp trains less than Shorter did to run a full minute slower at 10000m, but all the difference between the two relates to speed-side capability. Shorter would've had a hard time hitting 12sec for a 100m. Rupp can run 11sec.
.
Solinsky has mile capability such that he could've made it a focus.
Jager is the fastest miler to ever focus on the steeple.
Our best 1500m runners are capable of running 800m times comparable
to Wottle and Kenah.
Solomon is fast enough to be an alternate on the US 4x400m squad.
In most countries (albeit with 1/6 or less the US population) he'd be the anchor on the national 4x400m.
He trains hardER though. The hours in the weight room. The alter-G. The underwater treadmill. The altitude tent. The stretching. The diet. And the 100-110 miles per week on top of that. The Kenyans just run a lot. Rupp runs as much as them, if you count the underwater treadmill, and all the extras.
Pre is my favorite wrote:
He trains hardER though. The hours in the weight room. The alter-G. The underwater treadmill. The altitude tent. The stretching. The diet. And the 100-110 miles per week on top of that. The Kenyans just run a lot. Rupp runs as much as them, if you count the underwater treadmill, and all the extras.
That sounds like he trains MORE than them, not necessarily harder. How do you know how much mileage the Africans are doing anyway? What if some of them are doing 130 mpw? And they all stretch. ALL of them. Plus, stretching isn't exercise so I don't know why you count that. They also do plenty of drills and sprint work. There's a video somewhere of Asbel Kiprop'scamp doing tire drags and drills.
Dennis Reynolds wrote:
[quote]Jopomofo wrote:
No way is he training harder than anyone else in the world. That's an ignorant statement. Go to Kenya and then make that statement after seeing them training for World Cross. He has every possible advantage. Not even close to how hard Cam Levins trained this year as a full time student.
There is a difference between training hard and running a lot of miles.[/quote
Yeah there is a difference. Rupp gets done with a run , gets a massage takes a nap, sits around, etc. Mean while the kenyas are just hammer ing trying to survive to get a chance. Cam Levins is running hard ,studying, running more.
Did anybody watch that video? First of all, it was basically an advertisement for the underwater treadmill. Second of all, that thing looks ridiculous. Glad I branched out beyond running with my life.
You're glad you branched out from running so you don't have to run on an underwater treadmill?
Do we know Rupp can run an 11 sec. 100m? It's been said here, but is there a link from Rupp or Salazar?
BrandonStark wrote:
You're glad you branched out from running so you don't have to run on an underwater treadmill?
Yes. In order to keep improving as a runner, I definitely would have utilized the underwater treadmill to increase mileage without increasing impact from more running. One reason I enjoy running is to look at the scenery in the city and the woods as I do a run. Looking at the wall of a pool sounds like a terrible way to spend my time.
And no, I will not admit the absurdity of my original comment and will keep finding ways to justify that comment.
Jopomofo wrote:
Yeah there is a difference. Rupp gets done with a run , gets a massage takes a nap, sits around, etc. Mean while the kenyas are just hammer ing trying to survive to get a chance. Cam Levins is running hard ,studying, running more.
Rupp has a wife, keeping a wife happy is far more taxing on a man than taking some classes.
oiskdjuishhd wrote:
Rupp has a wife, keeping a wife happy is far more taxing on a man than taking some classes.
Here, here!
Silver medal = not training hard enough
Pre is my favorite wrote:
Yeah guys, honestly, bashing Rupp is some bullsh!t! He's training incredibly hard. Maybe harder than anyone else in the world.
Jealousy runs deep in immature people.
crazy person wrote:
BrandonStark wrote:You're glad you branched out from running so you don't have to run on an underwater treadmill?
Yes. In order to keep improving as a runner, I definitely would have utilized the underwater treadmill to increase mileage without increasing impact from more running. One reason I enjoy running is to look at the scenery in the city and the woods as I do a run. Looking at the wall of a pool sounds like a terrible way to spend my time.
And no, I will not admit the absurdity of my original comment and will keep finding ways to justify that comment.
No. You branched out from running because you were not good enough to go pro. It is OK to admit it. We are all in the same boat.
si article, i think. in any case, i read it in either rw or si.
ttc wrote:
Do we know Rupp can run an 11 sec. 100m? It's been said here, but is there a link from Rupp or Salazar?
dsrunner wrote:
the notion about the 90's is wrong, of course.
the simple truth is we have faster runners
in the distances now.
Kennedy was talking about intensity of Kenyan training, not volume.
the most successful US distance runner of our time
runs half as much as that 145/week, not high volume at all.
Truth is Rupp trains less than Shorter did to run a full minute slower at 10000m, but all the difference between the two relates to speed-side capability. Shorter would've had a hard time hitting 12sec for a 100m. Rupp can run 11sec.
.
Solinsky has mile capability such that he could've made it a focus.
Jager is the fastest miler to ever focus on the steeple.
Our best 1500m runners are capable of running 800m times comparable
to Wottle and Kenah.
Solomon is fast enough to be an alternate on the US 4x400m squad.
In most countries (albeit with 1/6 or less the US population) he'd be the anchor on the national 4x400m.
There's a bunch of things here that are patently false. You've been spewing this crap for years, and it's still wrong.
It is my understanding that some of Rupp's mileage takes place on alter g.
Are he and Salazar still using AG as part of their training or have they switched to underwater treadmill. I run 3-4 times a week on Alter g (10 miles per session) and it has been great at reducing impact related stress that comes from running on ground. Has anybody run on underwater treadmill. Compare and contrast AG
vs underwater treadmill.
Just because he has every advantage does not mean he doesn't train as hard as anyone in the world.
The only legitimate reason anyone would assume that Rupp doesn't work as hard as anyone is based on Kara Goucher's interview where she mentioned training under Jerry is MUCH harder than training under Alberto.
Of course, Alberto has the upper hand in success right now, so Alberto must be on to something (i.e. training hard isn't the end all be all).