[quote]Running on Empathy wrote:
He might be suffering from a post-Olympic let down ....
I hope not. He ran the race of his life. Unfortunately, it was the fastest 800 in history. He should be proud. What more could he have done?
[quote]Running on Empathy wrote:
He might be suffering from a post-Olympic let down ....
I hope not. He ran the race of his life. Unfortunately, it was the fastest 800 in history. He should be proud. What more could he have done?
Nick, I heard David banged your dream GF after he won and beat the WR and she was like Nick who?
the real question is should duane soloman go for the american record man is on a tear and symmonds is an overated whiny baby
Duane will be able to run a similar time, Nick will require another fast field. He still holds the best finishing speeds in the world but unfortunately if 4-5-6-7 aren't running at 1:43 pace, Nick wont fire around them for his own 1:43.
The guy is simply a racer, he sits and waits and Rudisha and Amos didn't wait for him.
Kaki makes me sad, he could easily still be number 2 in the world if he'd get less discouraged every time Rudisha runs away from him.
Duane will be great for awhile and eventually become the next Krummancker.
running is better wrote:
it's the oldest american record on the books, men's or women's, dating to 1974.
symmonds has now run 1:42.95/3:36.04, both this year.
wohlhuter ran 1:43.9/3:53.3y in his career.
Wolhunter also ran 144.1 for 880 yards, which is equal to about a 143.4 for 800 meters.
I agree with others: that record is tough, and I don't see Symmonds getting it. He'd have to find a 1,000 meter race that was set up like the Olympic final: perfect conditions and a bunch of faster runners ahead of him. I doubt that he'll find such an opportunity.
Bingo Jim wrote:
... which reminds me....
Mel Watman's report in Aug 17 1985 issue of Athletics Weekly described Cram's time as "intrinsically the greater performance" compared to Coe's WR due to the "cold, windy weather".
The wind speed was 3m/sec into runners' faces in the home straight earlier in the evening and Cram asked the race to be put back from 8.35pm to 9.50pm. However, whereas the wind died at 8.35pm, it picked up again at 9.50pm and was much colder by then too.
"Yes, it was ironic," said Cram. "It backfired really."
As for splits: Coe ran 25.6, 51.3, 78.4, 1:44.6 and 2:12.18 James King and Rob Harrison took him to around 550m.
Cram ran 25.7 (James Mays 25.16), 51.8 (51.55 for Mays), 78.84, 1:44.94 (Cram needed 53.33 for the final 400m and clocked 26.10 with the wind behind him down the back straight. He then needed 27.23 for the final 200m, but fell short with 2:12.85).
Rob Harrison had been in second up until 600m, but Cram overtook him at 600m and Harrison dropped out without ever having taken the lead.
Cram's 200 splits were 25.7, 26.1, 27.04, 26.10, 27.91. Coe's were 25.6, 25.7, 27.1, 26.2, 27.6 - in perfect conditions in Oslo.
That doesn't make a great deal of sense. If the wind was in his face down the home straight, then he was drafted from it on the first 2 laps, and he'd have had the wind behind him on the last lap, making him run faster for that stretch. He hit 800m in 1:44.9, already 0.4 behind schedule, with the wind behind him. It was unlikely from that moment he was going to break the WR. By the end he was 0.7 behind it, which is 5m. That's still quite a gap. Ok, maybe with no wind he'd have run that last 200 a bit quicker, but I doubt as much as 0.8. Also, without the wind behind him on the last back straight he'd probably have hit the 800 outside 1:45.
I think the wind, which wasn't that strong, probably cancelled itself out on the last lap.