How long until Galen Rupp destroys Ryan Hall's 1/2 AR of 59:43?

No disprespect, but the half is nothing more than fun runner shit. Rupp won't be venturing in that direction anytime soon, if ever. He has more than enough speed for the 10K and will likely stick with that for the remainder of his career. Not saying he won't ever attempt a half or marathon, but it's never going to be the focal point of his career.

radiosilence wrote:

Randy Petterson wrote:

I don't understand this logic...

Rupp ran 1:00:30 on 10K training as an afterthought race.

That's what I was going to point out.

Are you guys forgetting the 60:30 in NYC? After falling?

Not like he was anywhere near training for that half, yet he seriously rolled it. Him and Mo.

That 60:30 is good, but 10k training compared to half marathon training isn't all that different.

asfsf wrote:

That 60:30 is good, but 10k training compared to half marathon training isn't all that different.

"The most significant difference between marathon training and 10,000 meter training is the extralong weekend run."

--Alberto Salazar in "14 Minutes" page 103.

We all know Rupp's mileage progression has been very systematic since jr. high. Is he at 120mpw yet? Once that group gets comfortable day in and day out at that level not only will the Hall record fall (given the right race $$$) but the 2:05 marathon will go down.

iwjjw wrote:

Ritz gets better as the distance is longer.

Except for his entire marathon career so far, right?

troof be told wrote:

iwjjw wrote:

Ritz gets better as the distance is longer.

Except for his entire marathon career so far, right?

Cool, you know how to take things out of context. Tell me, is Ritz better at the 1500m or the half

rupps bp from the 10k "equates" to 58:46 ish.

http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/Competitions/TechnicalArea/04/33/41/20110124082825_httppostedfile_IAAF_Scoring_Tables_of_Athletics_2011_23299.pdf

for a good time, of course you want/need:

* a good field with and a good pace

* good conditions..

* be in shape.

* peak for the race.

these variables come into line somewhat at random, when they do, a guy will score a big PB "out of nowhere"

but it is never out of nowhere. it's an accident waiting to happen.

rupp being a track guy, will probably not spend too much time peaking for a road race, but al sal might back off for a couple of races and give it a shot.

'I can see why he didn't, though, coming off the high of a silver medal and the letdown of that bad 1500 and not getting the 5000 AR after the Olympics.'

I doubt he was too bothered after getting the Silver especially the 1500m

Mo Farah has already announced that he will run more road races, and has hinted at a marathon debut in London in 2014. I think the synergy that has helped Rupp to succeed on the track can also help him on the roads, when Farah and Rupp both go for longer distances. Their New York half marathon last year (60:23 for Farah to win, 60:30 for Rupp in third place) off of track training clearly shows the potential for both of them to go sub 60, possibly sub 59 for Farah and low 59 for Rupp, although perhaps Rupp might yet prove to have an edge over longer distances.

That said, even if Rupp breaks Hall's half marathon record, it doesn't take anything away from the fact that Hall's 59:43 was an incredible (solo) effort. Although I disagree with most of what Ryan Hall says, watching a video of his run in Houston before a race still gets my adrenaline going.

5k ,10k and the half marathon on the road are the only distances people may relate to along with the marathon. When is the last time you heard somebody say , Im training for the 25k !

It would be interesting with a fit Ritz pushing Rupp. No so sure though we will see Rupp doing much road racing , Ritz much more on the roads in the future.

OK, maybe the 25 k is a stretch but for Ritz it would be good marathon prep. Williams 15k record gets a lot of praise from the old timers so I think there might be some interest there in addition to the 10 mile as it's a nice round distance...the USA 10 miler this weekend is getting a lot of attention. Maybe more of a way for Ritz to go than Rupp.

regardless of what rupp ends up running in the half marathon (which i'm sure he can run 58:xx at his best) , i hope ryan hall has no american records when his running career is over. he's obnoxious and overrated and over-publicized and a head-case baby

In about 5 years. That is when he will "want it".

Hall can be annoying but his 59:43 and 2:06 are pretty solid marks.

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Ritz gets better as the distance is longer. Rupp is faster in the shorter stuff like the 1500m.[/quote]

Maybe. Definitely Ritz gets better as the distance gets longer.[/quote]

Ritz's PR's in order of IAAF points are:

Half Marathon (1241 pts) 1:00:00

5,000 (1224) 12:56

Marathon (1203) 2:09:55

10,000 (1185) 27:26.28

3,000 (1183) 7:39

It's not clear to me that he gets better as the distance gets longer.

Let's not forget to mention that Rupp fell in his 60:30.

Rupp is lightyears ahead of Hall at any distance. Hall has the benefit of Rupp being focused on the track.

Galen has run 60 minutes flat, and that was his only attempt which was a year ago. I'm thinking he has room to improve 20 some seconds to get the record.

iwjjw wrote:

Is Rupp fast enough to break that record? Hall wasn't a slouch when he set that record. I wouldn't blindly assume that Rupp is better than Hall either. Galen's 12:5x 5k vs Hall's 2:06 marathon? About the same, no?

are you aware of what you are saying Rupp will never run Tedesse's PR 26:39 in the 10k now you think Rupp can beat him at his best even? Half Marathon WR 58:23, Im sorry but you must be talking out of you ass!!!

runner85 wrote:

It looks like Teg and Solinsky beat them to it. Once Rupp runs a half as his peak race, it is all over. 59:20 or so on a fast course. He can crush tadesse in a 10k, and I doubt the 1/2 is that much of a difference to rupp.

The former Oregon Duck will break the 1/2 AR...

BUT IT WILL BE LUKE PUSKEDRA!!!!

iwjjw wrote:

Ritz gets better as the distance is longer.

Um, no.

1:00:00, 2:09:55.

Next stupid statement?