Chances Bekele runs sub12.50 as a big FU to the Ruppster?

Dennis Reynolds wrote:

Bekele does not concern himself with Rupp at all and if you think differently you are an idiot.

How many runners in the world currently competing have run 1:48, 3:34 & 26:48 and are currently in the form to do it.... or better?

Seriously, if Bekele is not somewhat concerned about Rupp he's just not doing his job and will easily get sniped on the oval. Mo Farah, like Bernard Lagat is not dismissing Galen Rupp.

There is a difference between confidence and arrogance and I highly doubt Bekele is the latter.

I'm sure Bekele is not trying to prove anything in this race to Rupp any more than he is to himself, Farah, Lagat and some Kenyans. But he will be aware of Rupp at the olympics and he will not be exicted when he see's Rupp right up his arse coming down to the end.

Mark that.

Meanwhile some of you will be in utter disbelief as if all the signs weren't clearly posted that Rupp is ON THE LEVEL.

[quote]delusionisis wrote:

How many runners in the world currently competing have run 1:48, 3:34 & 26:48 and are currently in the form to do it.... or better?

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Mo Farah would be the only one. Obviously Galen hasn't done it, and Kenenisa could have done it but hasn't in an official race.

After last weekend you need to move the white boy up to 12.

And what if it all blows up in yo face delusionsis?

bangalangadanga wrote:

... He always seems to shoot himself in the foot though.

Well, he has more Olympic gold, WC gold, World cross gold and World records than pretty much everyone else combined, so it seems like he sometimes does not shoot himself in the foot. Prior to his injury, he was as close to a sure bet as anyone has ever been. I think he is still the same person inside, and his injuries are finally letting him get really fit again.

I doubt there is anyone in the world who would look over at Bekele late in a 5000 this weekend and not be somewhat concerned.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Azaleas wrote:

Has Bekele really not broken 13:00 since 2009? IAAF doesn't list any 5ks for 2010 or 2011.

True. He hasn't broken 12:50 since 2007. Season bests of 12:52 is 2009 and 12:50 in 2008. So chances he breaks 12:50--very very low.

No one has broken 12:50 since 2007 so it's pretty hard to do. However I would point out that of the 20 times it's been done in history 5 of them were KB so you might not want to count him out.

Iailwah wrote:

[quote]delusionisis wrote:

How many runners in the world currently competing have run 1:48, 3:34 & 26:48 and are currently in the form to do it.... or better?

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Mo Farah would be the only one. Obviously Galen hasn't done it, and Kenenisa could have done it but hasn't in an official race.

Sorry, I guess Rupp only ran 1:49 years back, but I'd wager with his early season 3:34 and his 0:52 close at the trials he could better that now.

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Rupp Galen USASex Weight Height Date of Birth Place of birth

M 08/05/1986

Information

Personal Best - Outdoor

Performance Wind Place Date

800 Metres 1:50.00 Palo Alto, CA 02/05/2009

(800m - 1:49.87i (2009))

1500 Metres 3:34.75 Los Angeles (OC), CA 18/05/2012

One Mile 3:57.72 Eugene, OR 03/07/2010

3000 Metres 7:43.24 London (CP) 13/08/2010

5000 Metres 12:58.90 Eugene, OR 02/06/2012

10,000 Metres 26:48.00 Bruxelles 16/09/2011

20 Kilometres 57:30 New York City, NY 20/03/2011

Half Marathon 1:00:30 New York City, NY 20/03/2011

coach d wrote:

They probably know who Rupp is, but do hey know who Levins is?

Chances of the Africans running a tactical 10000 (say, 27:15) and Cam laying a 24 on them at the end?

LetsRun would be crushed into a singularity if that happened.

coach d wrote:

They probably know who Rupp is, but do hey know who Levins is?

Chances of the Africans running a tactical 10000 (say, 27:15) and Cam laying a 24 on them at the end?

none... and you have no idea why...

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Azaleas wrote:

Has Bekele really not broken 13:00 since 2009? IAAF doesn't list any 5ks for 2010 or 2011.

True. He hasn't broken 12:50 since 2007. Season bests of 12:52 is 2009 and 12:50 in 2008. So chances he breaks 12:50--very very low.

Just because he didn't run sub-12:50 in those years doesn't mean he wasn't physically able to. All it indicates was that race conditions(pacing, competition, etc.) weren't conducive to sub-12:50. Imagine if Rupp tried to break 26:40 here in the US. Very unlikely, I mean where in the US do you line up with 26:40 competition?

If you watch Bekele run 12:48 in 2006, you'll see that once the pacers dropped out Bekele slowed to 66's because there were runners right on his shoulder. He slowed a few laps, then closed in 53 to a 12:48. If he had pushed for 3 60's the last 3 laps he probably would've run 12:44ish. But he wanted to win more than he wanted to run a fast time. I imagine his 12:50's in 2007, 2008, etc. were similar circumstances.

+1

Bekele ran a 26:25.97 10k in 2008, so he was probably in ~12:43 shape then. 2009 didn't have a good chance to run a fast 5k until after the World Championships and I'm sure he was too tired from his double to run sub 12:50. Bekele probably could have challenged 12:50 last year tbh

I know Bekele's been getting beat down badly so far this season but don't forget that he's pretty much done no track training. His own, purpose built track, was only finished a couple of weeks ago and he's said he has done much hard stuff before that through fear of injury. Everybody knows he's a freak, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he can sharpen up in 3-4 weeks for a 5k. I'm a Brit and would love to see Farah take the 10k but I just think that Bekele will finally cement his place as the best there's ever been in London. The 5k is more open but if Kenny B drops a 12:48 or something daft then he's still the man to beat. The fact remains that if Bekele is fit and healthy then he's the best in the world but a considerable margin. Just watch the Beijing 5000m....

wasn't it 2009 when Bekele said he wanted to challenge the 5000m world record after the World Champs, but he was made to double at the championships when he didn't want to? That year, it seemed like he could have done it, and he sounded confident, but when he was going to attempt it (same race where ritz ran 12:56 i believe) he just looked fatigued and overraced (I think he said the same thing). He ran 12:52 after falling off the pace a bit and far out in front of the field. I think he'd also ran 5 or 6 six races under 13:00 that summer. I think he won like a million dollars for winning 5 golden league races, didn't he?

Its ONLY because of Bekele that I give this thread only a tiny shred of respect. I do believe that once an athlete reaches a certain plateau you can get back to the plateau fairly fast after an injury. And of course Bekele, and only Bekele out of today's active runners, established a very firm plateau of 12:50 and lower.

Still, I'm disappointed in people in this thread who think an athlete can just give a great performance like its turning on a light switch. Unless KB was deliberately dogging it in multiple Diamond League races in recent weeks he is a ways away from turning in 12:50. Unless its perfect conditions in which case Rupp and a number of other runner could just as well go 12:50.

Rupps kick at the trials was impressive, and while it seems he has something of a shot to get a medal, I just don't like him very much.

I;ll be rooting for bekele, to resume his title as the king of men in running

what!!! wrote:

Hey "A Duck" are you somehow related to Rupp? Maybe Rupp himself? Please explain.

I'm trying to figure out who this Oregon loving d-bag is, but I can't figure it out. I would guess he tried to walk on to Oregon but his lame butt got cut, though he still loves and breathes Oregon. Sorry A Duck but your 19:21 5k is not that fast and you never had a chance to make the team.

Thanks

hmmmm ? wrote:

wasn't it 2009 when Bekele said he wanted to challenge the 5000m world record after the World Champs, but he was made to double at the championships when he didn't want to? That year, it seemed like he could have done it, and he sounded confident, but when he was going to attempt it (same race where ritz ran 12:56 i believe) he just looked fatigued and overraced (I think he said the same thing). He ran 12:52 after falling off the pace a bit and far out in front of the field. I think he'd also ran 5 or 6 six races under 13:00 that summer. I think he won like a million dollars for winning 5 golden league races, didn't he?

I believe it was $333,333 as it was split 3 ways.

There's some site that lists all of Bekele's winnings (prize money, not appearance fees) and it said $333,333 for the end of that season.

coach d wrote:

They probably know who Rupp is, but do hey know who Levins is?

Chances of the Africans running a tactical 10000 (say, 27:15) and Cam laying a 24 on them at the end?

Cam isn't running the 10,000. It's on the front page of Letsrun, genius.

Of course Behele knows who Rupp is, I didn't convey what I mean very well. What I meant is in no way Bekele going to go after 12:50 as a way to say "Hey Rupp, FU. Look at me".