Just came from the Cardiologist

I had a cardiac event at 26. No lie.

Cut all sat. fat from my diet. Cut all cholesterol.

No pizza ever again. Yes, ever again. No cheese ever again either. If you care at all about yourself, you wouldn't touch cheese or pizza.

Skim milk, low fat cottage cheese, and low fat yogurt only and only one serving of any of these a day.

Limited to 3-4 eggs a week. Lean portions of pork, turkey, chicken only. Beef rarely.

Doubled my intake of greens. Doubled my intake of fruits.

Try to get a larger portion of my protein from nuts, and peanut butter.

But most importantly I eat fish 3-4 times a week and take fish oil religiously, go through a giant bottle of fish oil in about 2 weeks.

I'm 28 now, and my body has never been healthier.

damn dude, I was reading your post just as I bit into my first slice of an x-large pizza. Did you have any insight into the cause? Family history, high cholesterol, etc..??

Had a heart attack at 26 wrote:

I had a cardiac event at 26. No lie.

Cut all sat. fat from my diet. Cut all cholesterol.

No pizza ever again. Yes, ever again. No cheese ever again either. If you care at all about yourself, you wouldn't touch cheese or pizza.

Skim milk, low fat cottage cheese, and low fat yogurt only and only one serving of any of these a day.

Limited to 3-4 eggs a week. Lean portions of pork, turkey, chicken only. Beef rarely.

Doubled my intake of greens. Doubled my intake of fruits.

Try to get a larger portion of my protein from nuts, and peanut butter.

But most importantly I eat fish 3-4 times a week and take fish oil religiously, go through a giant bottle of fish oil in about 2 weeks.

I'm 28 now, and my body has never been healthier.

Widow Maker wrote:

Bottom line, if your lipids and BP are good, you have no chest pain while hammering your workouts, the only thing you can do is take a daily aspirin to lessen the clotting effect if you have a plaque disruption...just thought you'd like to know.

Wow thanks for that great advice, I'll be sure to go out back and get an aspirin fruit from my aspirin tree to eat every morning, just because another greedy ass cardioligist wants to make more thousands of bucks screwing with another distance runner's heart. In fact I'll tell all my friends about this, after all they probably won't make the connection that I died within just a few months of doing what the cardiologist told me to do. But I probably didn't die because of that, no.......

No family history of cardiac events. No one in my extended family had a heart attack, which is rare in America.

A few strokes, but those happened in relatives over 70 years.

I think it was a combination of an aweful diet, high stress work environment (which has gotten no less stressful), and very hard workouts because time to workout is tight.

After a couple years of doing that to my body, it just said no more.

It still motivates me, because I could have died at 26. That may not mean a lot to some of you guys but it motivates me like crazy. I hate oatmeal but I eat it anyways, almost every day. And I fricken love pizza, but I can't so much as eat even a bite, that or cheese, or non skim milk. I mean I could and it probably wouldn't hurt, but thats not the way I look at it, I look at it as poison. If I don't its that slippery slope back to eating bad, which could kill me.

Me too.

I was never that talented, at least, I never had the background and training in my youth to find out whether I was or not. (Think of Ritz; if someone hadn't opened his eyes to the idea that gobs of miles were required to get to the next level, would he have obviously been a shoe-in to rise to the upper echelon of distance running?)

. I appreciate your effort here. I resist the idea of taking a daily aspirin, concerned that my system will then be dependent upon it, and thereby increase the likelihood of an event we are trying to avoid if I go withou the aspirin; in affect, becoming 'dependent' on the daily aspirin ' insurance'.

Had a heart attack at 26 wrote:

I had a cardiac event at 26. No lie.

Cut all sat. fat from my diet. Cut all cholesterol.

No pizza ever again. Yes, ever again. No cheese ever again either. If you care at all about yourself, you wouldn't touch cheese or pizza.

Skim milk, low fat cottage cheese, and low fat yogurt only and only one serving of any of these a day.

Limited to 3-4 eggs a week. Lean portions of pork, turkey, chicken only. Beef rarely.

Doubled my intake of greens. Doubled my intake of fruits.

Try to get a larger portion of my protein from nuts, and peanut butter.

But most importantly I eat fish 3-4 times a week and take fish oil religiously, go through a giant bottle of fish oil in about 2 weeks.

I'm 28 now, and my body has never been healthier.

Saturated fats from whole foods, fats from whole foods and dietary cholesterol do not promote heart disease.

Consumption of whole-fat dairy products is associated with better health outcomes than consumption of low-fat or non-fat dairy products.

How was your heart attack diagnosed, did you have elevated troponins? EKG changes? confirmed perfusion defect by either angiography or nuclear stress scintigraphy?

lol lol lol lol wrote:

You need to go here and follow the recommendations...no wheat, sufficient D3, sufficient O3s, etc.:

http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/

He doesn't need to do a damn thing you tell him to do. Who are you to tell him what to do, mr lol lol lol lol ??? "no wheat" ?? Unless you have celiac's or gluten intolerance, that is complete bullshit.

Low carb can work for losing weight, but it in no way is superior (for weight loss or overall health) to low fat, higher carb diets that stress fruit, veggies, whole grains, and milk. You can toss out as many studies as you please, and I will knock them back with 100 others showing that low carb is NOT superior to low fat, higher carb. Trust me, i've read way more studies on this topic than you have (actual studies, not one paragraph summaries). And I don't care what that doc is pushing on his blog, he's not right.

And high sat fat diets are CERTAINLY still linked to negative health effects, no matter what you or the good doc thinks.

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Saturated fats from whole food.....and dietary cholesterol do not promote heart disease.

Consumption of whole-fat dairy products is associated with better health outcomes than consumption of low-fat or non-fat dairy products.

WRONG. Just because you read health blogs that fit your ideology doesn't make them true. Grow up.

Your claims are that

1) wheat is harmless for most people,

2) Low carbohydrate diets are not superior to higher carb diets for weight loss, and

3) Saturated fats are unhealthy

All of your claims are untrue.

1) Modern (dwarf) wheat is uniquely inflammatory and promotes small, dense LDL to a remarkable degree. As a result, it is generally very unhealthy, and specifically promotes heart disease more, perhaps, than any other foodstuff commonly thought to be "healthy." In addition to Davis (and if you read his blog, read his book, and check on youtube you will learn more about the hazards of wheat that you ever wished to know), Denise Minger has done some great work crunching the numbers

2) Low carb diets are currently leading 14-0 in the study contest when pitted against non LC diets:

3) Latest study, looking at previous studies:

Sir Lance-alot wrote:

WRONG. Just because you read health blogs that fit your ideology doesn't make them true. Grow up.

I believe what is proven to be true. I do not believe what is proven to be untrue.

At one time, I assumed that fat, writ large, was unhealthy, carbohydrates were generally healthy, and so on.

Then I started learning about the subject.

Thanks for the link to Denise Minger's site. That is fascinating stuff. I am in the process of reading Colpo's "The Great Cholesterol Con" which is quite interesting as well.

I had had chest pain (angina) all week and ignored it because it would come and go and last only about 30 minutes to an hour getting progressively worse throughout the week, usually after dinner.

I finally went to the ER complaining of chest pain when I couldn't breathe. My left arm, shoulder and chest had been numb on and off all week, but in the ER it increased.

After I had been treated doctor told me I likely had a minor infarction, and that the causes were mostly diet and stress. I also had Hyperhomocysteinaemia.

Apparently my intense training, and so so diet and work schedule led to me having very low Vitamin B levels and that I had probably been deficient for years.

I was released after a day. Stopped taking the medication after a week and had a lot of soul searching before I ran again. My diet, and lifestyle changed drastically and I'm much healthier today. I've even pr'd since then.

In hindsight, might have been the best thing to have ever happened to me.

Mycroft Holmes wrote:

Thanks for the link to Denise Minger's site. That is fascinating stuff. I am in the process of reading Colpo's "The Great Cholesterol Con" which is quite interesting as well.

Denise Minger is a true genius. Next year she is scheduled to publish her 1st book, tentatively titled DEATH BY FOOD PYRAMID.

If you like the Colpo book read Fat and Cholesterol are Good for You by Uffe Ravnskov and visit Michael Eades' site:

. As you may know he has had a few memorable tiffs with Colpo (and was right, so far as I can tell)...

lol lol lol lol wrote:

If you like the Colpo book read Fat and Cholesterol are Good for You by Uffe Ravnskov

Article/review:

Dairy fat is actually good for you or at least doesn't seem to be bad. The NYTimes had a link to a study a few weeks back showing that the people who ate the most dairy fat actually had fewer problems than those who ate less.

Of course the same studies show that there's no problem with eating wheat, that whole grains are good for you, and that eating large amounts of animal fats (meat) is not good.

lol lol lol, show me a study that shows the benefits of animal fat. I'm genuinely curious if one exists. I don't want some ideologue's website, either.

My arteries are totally occluded.

Tree 20-yr old grafts keep me alive at the moment.

Two them are 50% blocked and the third one has 2 stents.

I had these procedures done whenever I could not run longer that a mile w/o bad chest pain.

good luck

I really enjoy Sir Lance-alot's posts.

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Your claims are that

1) wheat is harmless for most people,

2) Low carbohydrate diets are not superior to higher carb diets for weight loss, and

3) Saturated fats are unhealthy

All of your claims are untrue.

This is great age we live in huh? We're people can speak with such confidence about subjects they don't have much of a clue about. Why does this happen? Blame the internet, we're people can cherry pick the "facts" that they WANT TO HEAR (as opposed to the whole truth), and for the popular view that the gov’t or experts are always to be doubted, are likely in on some conspiracy to get us. I guarantee you that ANY answer or "fact" that you want to hear concerning ANY subject will be out there on some blog or book or website. But it doesn't make it completely or even slightly true. This is why the world is, unfortunately, full of people like you now.

But now I will dismantle your nonsense point by point. But guess what? You likely won't change your viewpoint one iota because..... it's not the truth that you WANT to exist. Science shouldn't be about cherry picking and your personal wants/desires, it should be about the whole truth. And now I will fill you in on some of that ( a post for each point, since this will be well-researched and full of citations. You will probably blow it all of though)