Worst act ever committed by a track athlete?

Top three all wife killers

Tim Danielson, high school sub 4 miler

Robert Howard, Olympic triple jumper

OJ Simpson, 9.4 100y sprinter

Here is another possibility wrote:

OJ Simpson was a star track athlete at USC.

Well, shucks, you just beat me to it.

I would put Simpson higher, because he killed two people; so did Howard, of course, but one was himself.

Simpson's victims:

Howard's victims (counting himself):

Danielson's alleged victim:

I dunno, though, there has to have been a head of state who was a track athlete in his younger days and then went on to slaughter thousands or millions...

This doesn't compare but David Jenkins was sentenced to 7 years for trafficking steroids in to the US.

Emil Ketterer ran the 100 meters in the 1912 Olympics later becoming a leader in the Nazi SA militia.

As a doctor, he "euthanizsed" the SA leader, Ernst Rohm.

Somewhere around 15th on the list might be Stella Walsh, who in the 1930s accused her archrival Helen Stephens of being a guy. As was learned later on, it's actually Stella who was a guy.

Who is worse: Danielson or OJ Simpson?

OJ was found innocent and he denies the killings. However, OJ does have the killing of his ex-wife plus one on his side. Danielson has already confessed, but he only killed one person.

Or is the Nazi worse than both of them?

who is the track star that killed Biggie or Tupac?

Was it David Mack? I think the guy was an 800 runner from the west cost? If it's not already obvious, I don't remember much of the details.

H Cup wrote: I dunno, though, there has to have been a head of state who was a track athlete in his younger days and then went on to slaughter thousands or millions...

Indeed, his name is Kim Jong Il.

Forrest Lyerly

bad guy wrote:

OJ was found innocent and he denies the killings.

No, he was found "not guilty"--not the same thing as "innocent."

In the civil trial, he was found liable for wrongful death. He's a murderer. I'm pleased that he's in prison (though for something else), and hope he will stay there for the rest of his life.

I thought he was pretty funny in the "Naked Gun" movies, though.

Zamperini for genocide in Asia.

Proud Russian-American wrote:

> Pretty sure he was serving our country DUMB A$$!

Joseph Stalin served his country well too.

I remember when I used hyperbole as a logical fallacy.

ddtyd wrote:

In the civil trial, he was found liable for wrongful death. He's a murderer. I'm pleased that he's in prison (though for something else), and hope he will stay there for the rest of his life.

Why do you hope he stays there for life? That ridiculous and hateful.

Do you have any proof that he's guilty or that he did it? Who did a better investigation, you or the court? If they didn't put him in prison, then there's no legitimate reason why he should be in prison.

bad guy wrote:

My Top Three

Tim Danielson: murder

Chris Nelloms: rape

David Mack: robbery

Who you got?

I've got a Plain old White miler who, if my hunch about the garbage truck hit on his therapist's husband is correct, has your top three beat all by himself.

He has been anti-war, anti-racism, anti-nuclear, pro-Soviet, pro-Chinese, pro-Contra, labeled a subversive, called a Communist, put on the FBI watchdog list, imprisoned for an alleged connection to Patty Hearst's kidnapping by radicals and been a crusader for a smoke-free environment decades before anyone else thought of it.

This from a self-described "farm boy from Eastern Washington," who grew up bucking hay bales every summer, building strong thighs and hips suitable for world-class sporting competition. "Everything I got in trouble for, it happened," he said. "But nobody cares anymore."

Read more:

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Cruel-Worlds-Forty-years-ago-promising-UW-track-1115408.php#ixzz1PdEcMoNw

Who remembers this one?

OJ was on a World Record 440y relay team.

no me me me wrote:

ddtyd wrote:

In the civil trial, he was found liable for wrongful death. He's a murderer. I'm pleased that he's in prison (though for something else), and hope he will stay there for the rest of his life.

Why do you hope he stays there for life? [That's] ridiculous and hateful.

Do you have any proof that he's guilty or that he did it? Who did a better investigation, you or the court? If they didn't put him in prison, then there's no legitimate reason why he should be in prison.

Here's a decent summary of why he's in prison:

As you suggest, the court doubtless did a foolproof investigation of the robbery case, finding him guilty on all 12 counts. That's the "legitimate reason why he should be in prison."

As to "proof that he's guilty or that he did it"--presumably referring to the earlier murder cases--my "proof" is that a civil court found him liable for wrongful death--i.e. he killed two people.

As a member of multiple juries in criminal and civil cases, and later a lawyer, I could talk about the differences between criminal and civil trials, satisfactory levels of proof, reasonable doubt and preponderance of evidence, etc.--but I'll spare you (and everyone else).

The prosecution in the murder (criminal) case was badly flawed--as someone memorably put it, "the cops framed a guilty man"--and O.J. was, probably correctly*, declared not guilty.

But "not guilty" does not mean "proven innocent"--far from it. The civil jury found him liable. That *is* a form of proof--after all, they must have done a better "investigation" than you or I could have, right?--and enough proof for me to call him a murderer.

And enough for me to be glad that he's behind bars (for whatever reason), and to hope that his thug ass doesn't get out from behind bars during his lifetime, so he can't hurt anyone else.

I still think the "Naked Gun" movies were funny, though, and that he did a good job in them.

*"Correctly" in terms of how the judicial system works, not as a statement of factuality.

Bob Kersey

How many of your athletes have died questionable deaths?