Nutritional supplement scam juice plus

I am new to the Juice Plus+ family and wish I had googled JP scams prior to signing up, only to have two sides of the coin, so to speak.

This thread still wouldn't have really changed my decision on signing up and here is why and here is what I have found....

First off I don't know why your sis-in-law is spending that much. It only cost me $50 and that is to get the kit of info to pass out to others. The other cost is the product itself which is $174.00 for four month supply of the Orchard blend and Garden Blend ($1.50 a day) and free chewables for andy kid age 4-18 and college students up to age 25.

Before I enrolled to be a seller me and my son have been taking Juice Plus+ for six months and have seen/experienced the benefits.

Juice Plus+ is seven fruits in the Orchard Blend, 10 veggies in the Garden Blend and nine berries in the Vineyard Blend. Two a day of each and it is not a supplement, but whole food based.

I was told that JP was developed by a Natural Path that wanted something for his very ill father to try. It turned out that his old man got better. The Natural Path had it in baggies and it was the National Safety Foundation (NSF) that put it in capsules and is marketing JP.

Mostly I love Juice Plus+ take on helping prevent childhood diseases.

So I guess I drank the Juice Plus+ cool aid. I am not expecting to make any $$ but I am wanting to spread the positive health information to others. The people I work with are excited about what this product has to offer and I never felt any pressure to buy or even to be a Juice Plus+ pusher.

I hope this helps either way.

I am new to the Juice Plus+ family and wish I had googled JP scams prior to signing up, only to have two sides of the coin, so to speak.

This thread still wouldn't have really changed my decision on signing up and here is why and here is what I have found....

First off I don't know why your sis-in-law is spending that much. It only cost me $50 and that is to get the kit of info to pass out to others. The other cost is the product itself which is $174.00 for four month supply of the Orchard blend and Garden Blend ($1.50 a day) and free chewables for andy kid age 4-18 and college students up to age 25.

Before I enrolled to be a seller me and my son have been taking Juice Plus+ for six months and have seen/experienced the benefits.

Juice Plus+ is seven fruits in the Orchard Blend, 10 veggies in the Garden Blend and nine berries in the Vineyard Blend. Two a day of each and it is not a supplement, but whole food based.

I was told that JP was developed by a Natural Path that wanted something for his very ill father to try. It turned out that his old man got better. The Natural Path had it in baggies and it was the National Safety Foundation (NSF) that put it in capsules and is marketing JP.

Mostly I love Juice Plus+ take on helping prevent childhood diseases.

So I guess I drank the Juice Plus+ cool aid. I am not expecting to make any $$ but I am wanting to spread the positive health information to others. The people I work with are excited about what this product has to offer and I never felt any pressure to buy or even to be a Juice Plus+ pusher.

I hope this helps either way.

This thread is absolutely hilarious. Not sure if the OP is a shill, but nearly 99% of the rest of you most certainly are...

Here is something about MLM: They are all bullshit. I worked for a very large financial fund; one of our main clients was the president/co-founder of a popular MLM. He admitted it was BS. These things may pay a pittance to various folks here and there, but they are all set up to make the owners money, not the "Representatives." Only trashy people do MLM.

Anyone who digs deep enough will see red flags all over the place with their science. The do have some good science findings that prove to be better than most of the garbage on the store shelves but when you start to see two of their fabulous studies had a whole 10 people in it makes me laugh and shake my head. Just wikipedia this company and you will find all kids of interesting credible articles ripping holes in this company.

While I can rip this company into shreds on the marketing side I will say it does have a better product, as I stated already, than most but the fact they have been found to be dishonest on numerous occasions kills any credibility I would ever give them.

I am the original poster (seriously).

I am glad this thread came up again, and no I did not bring it up. I have an update on my sister in law. Over the past two years she has spent a lot of money putting on parties and going to listen to motivational sales reps to see no return. She spent countless hours (hundreds) and barely sells any. They convinced her that she needs more focus and dedication. MLM are based on finding a bigger and poorer idiot. your own lifestyle is the main selling point for the product: thin, fit, nice house, nice car. Recently she has felt so dejected that she is throwing in the towel. She would have been so much better off as a Wal-Mart cashier rather than selling snake oil.

After seeing this come up again two years later I realize that I read way too much LetsRun. My name is Howard and I have a problem...

Thought this may help. My mother-in-law swears by it, and I wish she would just take a good multi vitamin. It would be so much cheaper and far better for her!

I have my MSCHE. Whatever benefits are derived from this product can be had more efficiently and far less expensively. MLM, by its very nature, produces severely overpriced products. And the dessication process makes less of the product readily available before digestion - that's high school science.

Okay so because juice plus is backed by scientific journals doesn't mean that it is good for you! Look what happend to the government guidelines on healthy eating, not to wat saturated fat because it causes chd which is total crap! And as for juice plus you want to pay 100 pound or what ever a month for some fruit and veg which isn't fresh and has been denatured to a powder, its all about the money!

Took it for ten years, then quit the last five. Feeling/running better than ever, the biggest thing being the conversion to Neo-Paleo diet. Without starches eating away at my energy, I can work out harder and recover faster. Get tons of nutrients from veggies, nuts, fruit and meats. THAT'S where to put your $$$$

So how many sides are there total, so to speak?

naturopath???

storybook anecdotes???

NSF??? -- NSF is not marketing this placebo. The NSF works with certification of food safety and quality standards.

Did you actually just try to claim that this placebo PREVENTS childhood diseases??? Are you F&$#ING kidding???

Keep drinking that Kool-aid and take your brainwashed fantasies elsewhere on the internet. This forum has nothing to do with who you are.

"I am a distributor for the company, and while you scoff at the work that we do, you only hurt yourself...." Your kill yourself with that loser... Juice Plus is a SCAM and you know it... Your just a crappy salesperson with most likely no higher degree or basic education... It is propaganda you fool... You exemplify it with your admitting to work for the company as a sales representative... Obviously you are no chemist either and once again just another stupid/idiot Juice Plus representative trying to sell us on a product that can be bought at the supermarket or health food store... SCAM... SCAM... SCAM... Sales Fool...

So let's nail down the basics. This thread was started by someone unfamiliar with and unqualified to comment on the manufacturing process behind the Juice Plus+ product, but who had a simple enough question: How does Juice Plus+ get the nutritional content of multiple fruits and vegetables into a capsule of 1.5g?

So far, nobody's addressed this question, but plenty have offered their misguided or ill-informed opinions of why it is or isn't a product worthy of taking a portion of their resources.

This is simple. As an example, let's look at the average apple. For every 125 grams of apple, there's about about 107 grams of water, 13 grams of sugar, 3 grams fiber, with another .3 grams protein, .2 grams of fat, .1 grams of starch, and an estimated .2 grams ash. That leaves about a gram of matter comprised of thousands of phytonutrients (the antioxidant rich substance) and perhaps a few unlisted substances.

Juice Plus+ doesn't claim that the phytonutrients of a complete apple and so on are in each capsule (duh, the math doesn't add up). They actually state that each capsule may contain varying levels of phytonutrients from the same sample of fruits and vegetables. What you get is a sample, or a blend, of nutrition with slight variance from a given array of produce in each capsule. When you take it consistently, you effectively consume the nutrients of the listed variety of whole foods daily.

Furthermore, it is only sold in a 4-month supply because the average life span of a human's red blood cell is about 120 days. If you consume this FDA APPROVED FOOD for 120 days, your red blood cell count would be replenished with proper nutrition.

These follow-up posts have been criticizing the most researched nutritional product in the world with little (by that I mean zero) quantitative analyses to back up said criticism. Even qualitative analyses lacks given the content and delivery of each reply to this thread. To those of you who took it and "didn't feel healthier": did you have a blood analysis done before and after taking Juice Plus+? I didn't think so. To those of you who were looking to make millions and instead spent more than you made, did you actually learn about the product? I think not, simply because of your position in this thread; no faith in the product you sell = no earnings. This goes for any industry, not just health & wellness.

Lastly, you can't compare Juice Plus+ with an industry or market standard because there isn't one. Juice Plus+ is a FOOD. Just ask the FDA. Even Natrol's JuiceFestiv isn't a competitor because it's an unregulated SUPPLEMENT with non-food ingredients, i.e.; high dose isolated "proprietary" (synthetically manufactured) vitamin additives. Reader's Digest, Time Magazine and the lot have all published findings on the harm these isolated vitamins do to the human body. Furthermore, Juice Plus+ is measured against a placebo just like any other scientific analysis would be. Come on chemistry MINOR, you should know that. The results are always in favor of Juice Plus+. And no, the researching institutions aren't paid to publish good findings. In contrast, if they find flaws in Juice Plus+ they're still obligated to print their findings. Juice Plus+ puts themselves out there because it's actually a rock-solid product. It's just fruits and vegetables people! But perhaps you didn't read all the research, or you're too frugal to purchase the studies in any of the globally recognized science and nutrition journals to help you understand this.

Look, you can keep arguing and bashing it on here if you want, but the evidence speaks for itself.

This is the wrong thread for this forum. A lot of people here have graduate degrees and highly tuned BS detectors. As a professor in linguistics it is apparent to me that most of these "posters" are the same person under a different name trying to increase the page numbers in a masturbating meta-dialogue. Please switch up your syntax patterns and try again.

Thank you to those of you who speak on the positive side. I am not a fan of many forums because of the effect that anonymity has on posters. Although the original concerns are valid, I wonder how the discussion would differ if we were to sit in a room together. However, for all of those out there who are considering taking Juice Plus+ and are reading this thread, I must speak up.

I have been taking Juice Plus+ regularly for thirteen years now, as do my husband, my 14 and 10 year old children, and my mother. As a consumer who really cares about what I spend my money and/or put my name on, I also have a pretty good radar for being fed a line of nonsense and approach carefully. It took a year and a half for me to listen to the person who introduced it to us and actually even take a real look at this product. Once I did, it made a lot of sense, and we started taking it. The research kept me taking it in faith, and the results have made me a lifetime user.

NSA/JuicePlus+ makes no claims on what this product will do that have not been proven in the randomized, double-blind, placebo-based "gold standard" studies that have been published. If some very human distributors out there are doing so, that is in error. That said, in the thirteen years that we have been taking it I have "noticed" more than a few things in OUR overall health, and these things I will share...

First week or so, my body adjusted to the better nutrition and I was in the bathroom a little more. Within that time, my "normal" energy reappeared--not like caffeine, but a level, sustained energy. Within the first month I noticed dark circles under my eyes subsiding. In the months following, my gums got more healthy pink than red, and I noticed my toddler's skin was more resistant to the sun. Later on, we noticed that same resistance in all of us. In the years after that, my fingernails got stronger, we stopped catching colds, we are never constipated,and my young children never get sick to the level that the kids around them do. About seven years in I went to work in a germ-factory daycare and, in the two years I was there, while everyone around me was always sick, the only thing I ever got was a little bit of swollen glands or a short-lived sniffle. In all of this time, the only time my regular energy has left me was one time when I was out of my Juice Plus for over a week. It returned within three days of taking it again. My over-80 mother has also appreciated the sustained energy and resistance to colds she feels are due to her Juice Plus+.

None of this is anything that would not be helped by eating very healthy foods. That's the point. Juice Plus IS very healthy food, and even though it's not a replacement for healthy eating, in my VERY busy life I'm glad it's available to help bridge the gap between what I eat and what I'm supposed to eat. I don't have time for a garden, and even when I buy lots of good produce it doesn't always make it into our bodies. We also don't get the consistent variety we should. So, Juice Plus+ was and still is a godsend, and at around just $1.50 a day I find it VERY reasonably priced. "Expensive" is relative to each person's priorities. I am happy to pay this amount to stay healthy and strong and out of the doctor's office, with deductibles, co-pays and prescriptions that add up... and how I feel is priceless to me. As well, if you add a child for free under the available no-hassle Study, you get 2 for the price of 1. A MARVELOUS value. Go into your local grocery store and see how much it would cost you to buy the same level of produce for yourself EVERY DAY, and kudos to you if you actually eat all of it.

Now that I've shared the product's value to me, I will also add that not long after we started taking the product, we started sharing it with others and became distributors. We really just wanted to make enough to pay for the product. Mission accomplished. Whatever other efforts I have made throughout the years have shown directly in my paycheck. I have worked on it, and I have not, but it's just like any other business... less work equals less pay, and consistent effort pays dividends. Between 2008 and 2013 I did NOTHING and still received a residual check every month that still covered all of our product. HOW NICE! Where you are in your life and development as a businessperson will have a great effect on your earnings, but it is not the fault of NSA or this business model. I have been very grateful that there IS such a business that I didn't have to open and close in failure when "life" hit, losing a FAR greater dollar amount that the $50 distributor fee and cost of peripherals that I spend on this one. And, as I ebbed and flowed in my efforts and personal development, this business was as easy to pick back up as opening my mouth and sharing with someone. YES, there ARE scams out there and MLMs where only the top people make money, but this is NOT one of them. I have been to the corporate office. I have met and worked with the leaders and many of the top distributors, and have never come across anyone or anything that raised an eyebrow. My paycheck is always on time, and customer service is always there for me when I need them. They do everything they can to make our lives as distributors easier, and so on and so on and so on.

So, I don't expect that some of you will come out of your opinions and change your mind, but I'm more concerned with those who may not give it a chance because of what you've said. I really hope my input will help those folks to really look at the credible information and give it a try...

I signed up with a very good friend - I'm weak that way. Just a few comments, from my experience as well as agreement with some other comments. I have had Lyme Disease for 11 years. After losing my livelihood (work, mothering, friends, financial stress), I seem to get advice from everyone about what to do! I just listen, say "thanks for the advice", and move on.

However, this time I was convinced to sign up. Problem Number one is that when told the cost, she have me just a one-month breakdown price. I thought, one month for $42+Nc tax wasn't bad. If I don't like it, no harm no foul. After going over the many people cured of Lyme (know she doesn't know the severity of my illness: neuroLyme, chronic Lyme + Cognitive and memory impairment, severe Chronic Fatigue, nerve pain traveling through my body), I thought, well even though I've been a Vegan/Vegetarian for 2 years, and hearing her explanation of how it helped her family stay well, recover quickly from injuries, have more energy, I could be helped by having more greens and fruits and berries.

I also thought my college aged son would benefit as he eats a lit of fast food.

When we finalized and went to pay, I was shocked that it cost $171+Nc tax. I waited 10 days to receive it, which was annoying, and was perturbed at getting 4bottles. It was the skepticism creeping in. However, since I have a very hard time eating (won't get into the Lyme again), I though this was a good solution to adding the fruits and vegetables.

i took it for one week and after the first few days, the capsule didn't breakdown easily, causing nausea. So i broke them open and drank with juice. That helped, however, my appetite decreased - so I had a hard time getting all my nutrients.

Over the past three mights I have had drenching sweats, chills, increased neuro and muscle pain. I thought this was a new attack of Lyme, which may be true. It also may be a reaction to something in one of the products. I will see if stopping it will stop these terrible symptoms.

That's two issues to be addressed: cost and increased illness despite tale of other's complete recovery.

Three: I attempted to read some of the scientific studies, and despite the claim that they are from renown journals, they did not include anything from a major study. I know how difficult these blind studies are to appear in a medical journal after many years in many years working in Venture financing for products. Someone has to present the product for study. The journal doesn't pick and chose. The numbers and length were not impressive.

Four: My ex husband was enthralled with Melaleuca, their products ( wme good), but his desire for wealth working part time was a fantasy. It is very similar, and also reminds me of Mary Kay. On the top levels there's a lot of schanagins (?) going on to make the leaders have a large downline, the only way to make it. His main rep was arrested after a FBI sting and his wife's life was ruined.

Five: i cannot understand why one needs 4 pills with 20 calories, no carbs or protein. The biggest sell was that it was organic and the process removed all the toxins. How do I know?

I know a JuicePlus rep will try to convert me, but I've been sick too long, researching for the best nutrition. I was disappointed that I had to add protein with another product.

It may have some benefits, and I hope you all meake some money, but JuicePlus doesn't come close to meeting nutritional needs, so why spend over 170 over 4 months unless you're selling it? Obviously the markup is high to pay the downstream. i agree with it not being on the nightly news and Time Magazine, but please tell me which issue? I know the Managing Editor, so I can get the if lowdown on that article - if that's what it is. It could be in a list of revenue numbers for private companies.

I signed up with a very good friend - I'm weak that way. Just a few comments, from my experience as well as agreement with some other comments. I have had Lyme Disease for 11 years. After losing my livelihood (work, mothering, friends, financial stress), I seem to get advice from everyone about what to do! I just listen, say "thanks for the advice", and move on.

However, this time I was convinced to sign up. Problem Number one is that when told the cost, she have me just a one-month breakdown price. I thought, one month for $42+Nc tax wasn't bad. If I don't like it, no harm no foul. After going over the many people cured of Lyme (know she doesn't know the severity of my illness: neuroLyme, chronic Lyme + Cognitive and memory impairment, severe Chronic Fatigue, nerve pain traveling through my body), I thought, well even though I've been a Vegan/Vegetarian for 2 years, and hearing her explanation of how it helped her family stay well, recover quickly from injuries, have more energy, I could be helped by having more greens and fruits and berries.

I also thought my college aged son would benefit as he eats a lit of fast food.

When we finalized and went to pay, I was shocked that it cost $171+Nc tax. I waited 10 days to receive it, which was annoying, and was perturbed at getting 4bottles. It was the skepticism creeping in. However, since I have a very hard time eating (won't get into the Lyme again), I though this was a good solution to adding the fruits and vegetables.

i took it for one week and after the first few days, the capsule didn't breakdown easily, causing nausea. So i broke them open and drank with juice. That helped, however, my appetite decreased - so I had a hard time getting all my nutrients.

Over the past three mights I have had drenching sweats, chills, increased neuro and muscle pain. I thought this was a new attack of Lyme, which may be true. It also may be a reaction to something in one of the products. I will see if stopping it will stop these terrible symptoms.

That's two issues to be addressed: cost and increased illness despite tale of other's complete recovery.

Three: I attempted to read some of the scientific studies, and despite the claim that they are from renown journals, they did not include anything from a major study. I know how difficult these blind studies are to appear in a medical journal after many years in many years working in Venture financing for products. Someone has to present the product for study. The journal doesn't pick and chose. The numbers and length were not impressive.

Four: My ex husband was enthralled with Melaleuca, their products ( wme good), but his desire for wealth working part time was a fantasy. It is very similar, and also reminds me of Mary Kay. On the top levels there's a lot of schanagins (?) going on to make the leaders have a large downline, the only way to make it. His main rep was arrested after a FBI sting and his wife's life was ruined.

Five: i cannot understand why one needs 4 pills with 20 calories, no carbs or protein. The biggest sell was that it was organic and the process removed all the toxins. How do I know?

I know a JuicePlus rep will try to convert me, but I've been sick too long, researching for the best nutrition. I was disappointed that I had to add protein with another product.

It may have some benefits, and I hope you all meake some money, but JuicePlus doesn't come close to meeting nutritional needs, so why spend over 170 over 4 months unless you're selling it? Obviously the markup is high to pay the downstream. i agree with it not being on the nightly news and Time Magazine, but please tell me which issue? I know the Managing Editor, so I can get the if lowdown on that article - if that's what it is. It could be in a list of revenue numbers for private companies.

I think the trouble with comparing to mutivitimin would be which one to choose and compare.

I think the idea with JP is that it's not isolated lab created nutrients but real food just concentrated.

There was a story covered about supplements on front line a few years back and CHOP (hospital) people in the medicine intake department said that only a few dozen supplements met their standards. They didn't respond when they asked for independent analysis or the analysis showed that the supplement was not at the dosage listed on the bottle or that what was claimed to be in them wasn't accurate. (Video is on YouTube i believe) This is scary. So I think having third party certification is important. Whether someone decides to go the route of a multivitamin or a concentrated FV capsule. contact companies of a product. ask questions and know what you are putting into your bodies.

As far as the research discussion goes, everyone can come to their own conclusions. I think skeptics will be skeptics anyway but reality is you don't find any other brand of "supplement" (even though JP will tell you it's not really a supplement since it's food) testing their product and having it peer reviewed and published. So I guess they have that going for them.

You know who else likes juice? Yeah, you all know by now. Yup, it's our good friend m a l m o.

If you have doubts, that JuicePlus is a scam, if you won't believe, that most reviews which start with 'I'm not a seller' is a marketing-attack of this crusaders, if you refuse to believe that the studies are launched by the manufacturers and distributors, than read what JUICEPLUS-DOCTORS-CRITICS (use as Google-Keywords!) write about these products.

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