ProudAmerican wrote:
Nathan why don't you read the post before you jump into a debate. The poster Uk... stated the senior men's team could whip the US lot meaning their top 6 runners. Oh wait you must be the other poster Uk....
Even on their best day Ethiopia wouldn't put six runners ahead of Chris Solinsky or Galen Rupp in a track 10000m or x-country.
I couldn't help but laugh at this post.
ukathleticscoach wrote:I have however had articles on athletics published
jezuz f***ing christ !
the mind boggles !!!
ukathleticsjoke
Yet you still don't have a clue. No country have six runners that could beat Chris Solinsky, Galen Rupp, and Bernard Lagat on the track or cross country. You did say six Ethiopians could beat our ENTIRE lot. You are so simple it's patheic!
Now for some truth the U.S actually have runners who could beat every UK runner.
...point is that Ethiopia's best beats our best every time...or just about. Unless you include the NBA, NFL, MLB and the NHL, lol!!!
p.s. don't forget NASCAR and texting while driving and yes, lest I forget, Eating!!! American Fatties' win everytime! :)
Don't stamp one point so blatantly and as a fact and when it's shot down you decide try change the meaning.
Because that's not the point the point you and/or ukathleticscoach aka ukathleticsjerk was making was the Ethiopia senior men's team -all six- could beat every U.S runner at 10000m or x-country. The fact is that NO country have six athletes that could finish ahead of all of U.S top runners at either track 10000m or x-country.
Get a clue!
ProudAmerican wrote:
The fact is that NO country have six athletes that could finish ahead of all of U.S top runners at either track 10000m or x-country.
I think there are two;
1. Ethiopia
2. Kenya
Even with Bernard Lagat.
Perhaps Meb would be the exception.
Anyone with information on the Ethiopia team for WXC? I read that Alamirew Yenew led the trials race yesterday, but faded out of the top six. Did he finish? Might he be selected for WXC ahead of one of the top six finishers?
As for the pertinent issue, there is clearly something amiss regarding the Ethiopian times.
The Ethiopians have a two minute advantage. It was probably the measurement.
Leading Results:
12 Km Senior Men
1. Hunegnaw Mesfin (Commercial Bank) 32.20
2. Imane Merga (Defence) 32:33
3. Dino Sefr (Federal Police) 32:35
4. Feysa Lelisa (Defence) 32:40
5. Abera Kuma (Muger) 32:46
6. Belete Assefa (Federal Prison) 32:57
8 Km Senior Women
1. Meselech Melkamu (EEPCO) 24:23
2. Hiwot Ayalew (Commercial Bank) 24:31
3. Belaynesh Oljira (Commercial Bank) 24:37
4. Wude Ayalew (EEPCO) 24:40
5. Genzebe Dibaba (Muger) 24:48
6. Merima Mohammed (Federal Prison) 24:53
8 Km Junior Men
1. Tesfaye Chernet (Oromiya) 21:32
2. Fikadu Habtu (Mesebo) 21:34
3. Bonsa Dida (Oromiya) 21:39
4. Gemechu Adao (Tirunesh Dibaba Academy) 21:40
5. Ytayal Atnafu (EEPCO) 21:42
6. Muktar Edris (South Region) 21:47
6 Km Junior Women
1. Genet Yalew (Defence) 18:27
2. Afera Godefay (Alfa Engineering) 18:41
3. Bizunesh Driba (Oromiya) 18:52
4. Emebet Anteneh (Defence) 18:53
5. Azmera Gebru (EEPCO) 18:53
6. Muktar Edris (South Region) 18:53
Leading Results -
SENIOR MEN 12KM
1. Geoffrey Mutai 34:35.0
2. Mathew Kisorio 35:19.4
3. Vincent Kiprop 35:23.5
4. Philemon Limo 35:26.0
5. Hosea Macharinyang 35:35.4
6. Leonard Komon 35:40.8
7. Paul Tanui 35:46.1
8. Stephen Kiprotich 35:49.1
9. John Mwangangi 35:50.7
10. Philip Kiprono 35:54.2
SENIOR WOMEN 8KM
1. Linet Masai 26:20.5
2. Vivian Cheruiyot 26:23.2
3. Priscah Cherono 26:33.2
4. Sharon Cherop 26:39.8
5. Sylvia Kibet 26:41.4
6. Pauline Korikwiang 26:45.9
7. Pauline Njeri 26:59.6
8. Lineth Chepkurui 27:02.5
9. Doris Changeiywo 27:04.4
10. Viola Kibiwott 27:06.3
JUNIOR MEN 8KM
1. Isaiah Kiplagat Koech 23:25.9
2. Justin Cheruiyot 23:29.8
3. Philemon Yator 23:30.5
4. Geoffrey Kipsang 23:31.4
5. James Gitahi 23:37.1
6. Patrick Mutunga 23:38.9
7. Patrick Muaka 23:39.9
8. Japheth Korir 23:41.7
9. Denis Kipruto 23:42.6
10. Edwin Mokua 23:47.0
JUNIOR WOMEN 6KM
1. Janet Kisa 19:51.7
2. Janet Jepkorir 19:52.2
3. Faith Chepng’etich 19:54.0
4. Nancy Chepkwemoi 19:59.4
5. Naomi Chepng’eno 20:06.0
6. Caroline Chepkoech 20:11.7
7. Jepchirchir Cheruiyot 20:12.6
8. Zipporah Wanjiru 20:15.6
9. Mary Munanu 20:24.8
10. Alice Aprot 20:25.5
Lol, for those of you who do not know Ethiopia is a country full of propaganda watch this video starting on 0.38.00, it is so funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoJZSB3zGMs
Oh please you simple minded posters who don't take time to think with you ignorant posts. I hate to resort to such language but there is NO COUNTRY that has six runners who would finish ahead of every U.S top male runner in either 10000m or x-country.
NativeSon
your obviously thinking the marathon and that's NOT the event were discussing. We're talking about 10000m and x-country. Not even Kenya or Ethiopia have six (6) runners that could defeat every American!
According to Ethiopia's team x-country times posted at the Addis Adaba Championships they should run away from the Kenyans in Senior Men and Women's and Junior boyos and girls; however, Ethiopia will be lucky to grab 4 golds individual and team combined.
...proudamerican, yer funny! Now take off your 'red white & blue' sunglasses, the view will be much clearer!
:)
ProudAmerican wrote:
Oh please you simple minded posters who don't take time to think with you ignorant posts. I hate to resort to such language but there is NO COUNTRY that has six runners who would finish ahead of every U.S top male runner in either 10000m or x-country.
NativeSon
your obviously thinking the marathon and that's NOT the event were discussing. We're talking about 10000m and x-country. Not even Kenya or Ethiopia have six (6) runners that could defeat every American!
According to Ethiopia's team x-country times posted at the Addis Adaba Championships they should run away from the Kenyans in Senior Men and Women's and Junior boyos and girls; however, Ethiopia will be lucky to grab 4 golds individual and team combined.
I am probably misconstruing the premise of your statement/assertion.
Should we ignore the cross country runners (e.g. those who took part in Bydgoszcz) and instead include
Meb Kifle, Chris Solinsky, Matt Teg, Galen Rupp e.t.c.?
NativeSon
In a statement earlier in the thread it was stated, any of "Ethiopia's senior men team could take apart the American lot."
My point, Yes both Ethiopia and Kenya teams could beat U.S team but the statement made by Ukathletics is false.
Ethiopia don't have six guys that could finish ahead of EVERY U.S runner in 10000m or x-country.
there's an obscene ad at the top of this thread!
in any case, xc races anywhere are questionable in their distance and in africa, it's just about setting up a good course. They all ran the same distance (in each race, that is) and they all will whup on their Euro and American comp at World XC, so what's the big deal?
was Yenew not in the race?
ProudAmerican wrote:
NativeSon
In a statement earlier in the thread it was stated, any of "Ethiopia's senior men team could take apart the American lot."
My point, Yes both Ethiopia and Kenya teams could beat U.S team but the statement made by Ukathletics is false.
Ethiopia don't have six guys that could finish ahead of EVERY U.S runner in 10000m or x-country.
Proud American,
Talking like a proud KEnyan, what do you think about these fellows?
1. Joseph Ebuya
2. Wilson Kiprop
3. Emmanuel Mutai
4. Mathew Kisorio
5. Leonard Patrick Komon
6. Sammy Kitwara
7. Vincent Kiprop
8. Paul Tanui
9. Hoseah Macharinyang
10. Philemon Limo
I've divided them into sections.
The first three will definitely beat any American without a doubt.
The next three would probably do it. That is a sweep (6/6).
Kiprop (vincent), Tanui, Macharinyang and Limo would perhaps place one guy ahead of the best American.
That is a total of seven.
My hunch is this.........
Kenya would probably do it.
That is just my take. We may or we may not. It'd be very close.
For the junior men, we'd definitely do it. I know someone will bring the issue of age cheating but we would.
Ooops!
I forgot my good friend Micah Kogo.
ProudAmerican wrote:
Oh please you simple minded posters who don't take time to think with you ignorant posts. I hate to resort to such language but there is NO COUNTRY that has six runners who would finish ahead of every U.S top male runner in either 10000m or x-country.
NativeSon
your obviously thinking the marathon and that's NOT the event were discussing. We're talking about 10000m and x-country. Not even Kenya or Ethiopia have six (6) runners that could defeat every American!
According to Ethiopia's team x-country times posted at the Addis Adaba Championships they should run away from the Kenyans in Senior Men and Women's and Junior boyos and girls; however, Ethiopia will be lucky to grab 4 golds individual and team combined.
In the 10000 or 12k XC Kenya almost certainly would put 6 ahead of America's #1. Ethiopia might also.
It is true that we are not talking about the marathon here. But if you don't think their top marathon guys would be hellacious 10000 competitors if that was the order of the day then you've got your head up your a$$.
Look at the world leader lists from last year. In the marathon Ethiopia has 16 before America's #1. In the half marathon they have 10 before our top 1. Do you really think that they are only good at the much longer events? Or are they just racing the much longer events because that is where the money is?
Hey, I'm excited about a resurgence of American distance running. And I am very impressed with Rupp, Solinsky and others. But if you had them toe the line at the Kenyan XC championships I'd bet my bottom dollar that they would not place top 6.
the one this year was 150 to 220 long it is a fact they came out and said it was .I think the last 1k was long with out the 150 - 220 they added on.
You and NativeSon, are both missing the point and hoping into a conversation without trying to remain on the subject.
The subject wasn't concerning Kenyan X-Championships or you selecting at random who could beat our Americans. It was stated that the top 6 individual that ran and made the Ethiopian senior team could beat ANY American on the track 10000m or x-country.
So if you took the top six mean who made Kenyans team this year- no they couldn't all beat EVERY American at both x-country AND the same six Kenyans ALSO beat every American on the track 10000m.