tell her there is one way that she can get to run less: if she gives more b*******s.
tell her there is one way that she can get to run less: if she gives more b*******s.
Running keeps the synovial fluid pumping in the joints so you won't have knee problems unless your form or mechanics are out of kilter. It's when you stop, then the synovial fuild dries up, and you attempt to get back into running is where the problem lies. Basically do not stop running and you will be fine. When you do start running after a break, take it EASY for a couple of weeks to get back into the swing of things.
This problem, my friend, is really rather easy to solve. You should just bend your girlfriend over and DO HER from behind. Everybody wins!!
Hmmmm wrote:
Gah, so tonight this girl I have been going out with said I run too much. Currently I am only running about 70 miles a week, though i am looking to get up to 85 pretty soon.
Well, you are 24 so you only have to deal with this "nagging about running" female problem for 60-70 more years.
Don't worry about it man. If she can't accept that it is important to you, she won't be around much longer.
Hey so I'm med student with an orthopedic surgeon at the moment who sees a lot of runners. This exact question came up with a patient today. The doctor's response to your question is that it is actually beneficial to your knees to keep running as long as you don't have cartilage damage from a previous traumatic injury.
For example, tearing your ACL previously and in the process doing damage to your cartilage, would leave you at much higher chance of developing problems because of your running down the road. If you had done nearly no damage to your cartilage (one thing they look for on MRI/in surgery), then run to your heart's content.
In your case, run as much as you want.
Thanks, I was going to just try to push the subject aside, but she keeps bringing it up.
And now having these articles at my disposable i might go ahead and list off what some of these other doctors are saying. I had read similar things before, but i had nothing to site at the moment. now i do. Scientific studies go back and forth though so i wasn't even going to jump into that realm. But it seems pretty clear there is a lot of evidence saying running is good. And since she is being all high and mighty scientific about it, i might as well show her there is another side.
Above post is me the OP, obviously
You Knew It Was Coming wrote:
5/10. It is a little obvious, but you got a number of serious responses.
You need to understand what trolling is before you are able to rate a troll. This thread is running related AND positive so how is this guy trolling? If he is trolling the score would be 0/10 because this will stir very little controversy on LR.
Ha yeah, i might be able to understand where he was going with the troll comment, just because "person telling other person they run too much" is a common topic on here and of course I could expect to get positive feedback from the letsrun audience. I have read some of these similar articles people provided so i wasnt clueless about the latest studies that say running is actually good. Still it is one thing to read the studies and its another thing to have a bunch of individuals tell you. I just needed to hear it from the letsrun masses.
I do troll occasionally though for kicks... i often fess up after a while, but this one was an honest thread.
Have you tried sitting around and getting fat and diebetic? Maybe her dad will give you a discount on treatmet.
Hmmmm, wrote:
Ha yeah, i might be able to understand where he was going with the troll comment, just because "person telling other person they run too much" is a common topic on here and of course I could expect to get positive feedback from the letsrun audience. I have read some of these similar articles people provided so i wasnt clueless about the latest studies that say running is actually good. Still it is one thing to read the studies and its another thing to have a bunch of individuals tell you. I just needed to hear it from the letsrun masses.
I do troll occasionally though for kicks... i often fess up after a while, but this one was an honest thread.
That was my thinking. Sometimes we call them wrong.
If you are serious (and God knows I've heard people say what your girl said) then I think the other posters have pretty much covered it: run to your hearts content, your knees will be fine (probably better because of it). Happy trails!
As others have said, the science is pretty clear:
http://sweatscience.com/not-running-will-ruin-your-knees/
That being said, there are issues with selection bias -- when you recruit a bunch of committed runners, they're likely self-selected as people with decent biomechanics. It's possible that some of those people you see on the treadmill at gyms with crazy pounding strides may have some impact on their knees. But so far there's no evidence of that (and there's plenty of evidence, on the other hand, that getting a bit overweight dramatically increases your risk of knee arthritis).
Powerpoint.
Simply remind her that you were running before you met her and will still be running after she's gone. And that it's up to her how long that is!
It sounds like you've made up your mind at this point and you will choose to continue running. Good for you. But I'll just throw two more cents in and reiterate that if you run with good mechanics, do as much as you can on softer surfaces, make sure you don't put too many miles on one pair of shoes, etc, then you aren't likely to prematurely develop knee problems. The psychological and physical benefits of your running habit outweigh the slim possibility that you might have sore knees one day. Do what you love and stick to your guns. There's no good reason not to in this case.
Another poster hit the nail on the head when they commented on your girl's profession influencing her criticism. Of course a PT is going to think every little bit of stress you put on your body is going to ruin your life someday.
J.R. wrote:
BINGO!
She is living her life for her parents, not for you, not for herself.
How dare you do something different than her parents would suggest!
This woman has no life of her own and probably never will. That's why she had eating problems before, to try and gain some control of her life. Now she has given up and just mirrors the views of her parents. This is a lose-lose situation for you.
The best thing for you to do is move on.
Yeah, you got the picture pretty well. She is definitely influenced by her parents a lot. never quite got out of that mind set even though she's 23.
we just met about 4 weeks ago. i didnt really think she was my type from the beginning because she was one of those real cute but ditsy southern sorority girls. i figured she would be real ignorant, but i was being shallow at first and wanted to go for it anyway. she ended up surprising me and being a smarter, deeper person than i thought, but my initial thoughts still probably hold true. It's one of those cases where she'll probably mature in a few years, but it's not something you can force. and you can probably guess i am not just talking about the running issue.
But we'll probably continue to hang out for a while and then it will likely peter off like a lot my relationships end up doing. Kind of sad but necessary. It won't end up affecting my running. it'll be there at the end of the day for the good and bad times.
alright that's some melodramatic talk right there, but that's how it goes sometimes. i guess the issue was prob bigger than just running
Run from here now
use all your speed
Get a woman who supports what you do, not one who drags it down.
and to counter the argument:
well if u run like an aboslute tool ur knees will get screwd up but otherwise she has no idea what shes talking about. this debate was solved like 30 years ago when they thought running was bad for your legs. running on asphalt and downhill heelstriking like a champ ur gonna feel knee pain but if u run on grass or trails and maybe even midfooted ull be fine to run the rest of ur life. hell u dont even neccesarily need midfooted, just dont run like an idiot and makesure all the little intrinsic mucles dont atrophy and u wont have any knee pain. when i first started running it was a few months after having dislocated my knee and having rocks ground into the other and my knees are fine. only knee injury ive had since then was a patella issue but thats becuase i thot itd be a great idea ot run in shoes without any heel cushioning and on said heels. years later and no knee pain
Clearly she's making a statement that you are not understanding.
I am sure she would like you to run even harder if she thought you had an ability.
What she's saying is - you are average at best. "I was, so I went away and made a life for myself as a Physical Therapist. You are too slow to justify all the future medical expense and discomfort."
I don't think this girl is for you. She is smart and subtle.
Well just to give a personal update on my life... i need to vent after last night. We ended up breaking up last night or whatever you want to call it after just dating for 4 weeks.
It didn't have to do with the running thing, but even still that came up when we were talking through things, and she would just not budge on her position. I brought up some of the articles I had read, and she was like, "I can show you 1000 others that say the opposite... Don't you understand this is what i study.." I kept explaining my side a little more this time, but it didn't matter. In the end when she saw that it really meant something to me she kind of acted like she wasnt as serious before and said she thought it was good that i ran, and she was almost jealous that i was still motivated to do so much, but even after saying that she had to add on that i would still be wearing our my knees.
Anyway we actually broke up because two nights ago when the running thing came up, we also started arguing about some ideology things- race/homophobia. we disagreed about some of the things we were talking about, and eventually she came out with the "Do you believe in God?" question. This kind of annoyed me because i didn't know why she was led to ask the question. So at first i didnt answer with any straightforward answer. but I do believe in god in some senses, but its somehting i'm still working through. In any case, i couldnt give a flat out yes. I said "yes but maybe in a different way than you" and explains some things. in any case since she is very christian, i think that is what ultimately sealed the deal. so she said the next night.
I also was getting frustrated that night and said something like, "i think we are different in too many ways," which was a true thing to say, but i hadn't thought of it as a game changer phrase when i said it.
in any case, last night after some short texts, we met up. she had thought about the things i had said, us being different and all, and she agreed. she had felt hurt that i had said that when i didnt even know her that well, and i felt bad for saying it too, but the whole night she wouldnt take any of the things i said seriously. but that.s how it goes. its for the best i'm sure because in fact we were very different ideologically.
well back to running.
time to try to meet someone in this town that is a little more similar to me.