3:30.9... I think he found his event last year in his first real season of getting a taste of international competition at the distance. Hopefully, he is just putting down some major foundational base and realizes that he is soon to be the best miler in the US. No need to focus on the 800, other than to sharpen. No need to be in racing shape until late summer. No need to be thinking about anything else except getting more racing experience in Europe and under 3:30.
What's the 1500 AR record anyway? Lagat's 3:29.4? That's got to be on his radar.
bobby e. wrote:
Furthermore, we have such depth of talent at 800m and 1500m right now.
Just the 1500, really. We have two guys who could potentially be a threat in the 800, unless Webb gets back into 1:43 shape; I wouldn't call that "depth".
who are those two guys?
if you think its wheating and symmonds might want to add one more name on the list.
yeah the man who paced lagat through to the AR on saturday night.
robby andrews will represent the US in DAEGU and probably make the final. He's young and still used the qualifying rounds that come with running every week in HS and college, the older boys forget its not just one race but a series. oh and andrews does what it takes to win, not just run fast.
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
in my view, the real AR is Lagat's 3:27, which he ran after becoming an American citizen in 2004. Whether he had declared or not to the media is rubbish. You don't become an American citizen by declaring it to the media.
Regardless of your view, the record is ratified as 3:29.3. Definitely within Wheating's capacity.
And the really cool thing is, unlike in those other lame countries where outstanding athletes are encouraged to concentrate solely on the World Championships like it's some important meet or something, Wheating will get to plan to peak not once but TWICE this summer: once at the US Nationals and then again at the Worlds--IF he makes the team. Hooray for the American system!
One reason why he should race now is he needs to get the A standard in the 15 and 8....
maxruns wrote:
One reason why he should race now is he needs to get the A standard in the 15 and 8....
But he's not going to be getting any A standards now anyway. Plus, if he starts racing in May, there will be plenty of time to get sharp for the big European meets in June, July, August.
With that said, I really think he should race now. If for no other reason than just something to break up the monotony of the training. Its hard to train for months at a time with no race in sight. Join the boys in Australia for some fun and a little racing.
Er... wrote:
And the really cool thing is, unlike in those other lame countries where outstanding athletes are encouraged to concentrate solely on the World Championships like it's some important meet or something, Wheating will get to plan to peak not once but TWICE this summer: once at the US Nationals and then again at the Worlds--IF he makes the team. Hooray for the American system!
Yes, the USATF, with its high standards of judgment, should pick instead.
And it would be more like other countries, where 7:20-running Daniel Komens sweep Olympic medals for them.
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
in my view, the real AR is Lagat's 3:27, which he ran after becoming an American citizen in 2004. Whether he had declared or not to the media is rubbish. You don't become an American citizen by declaring it to the media.
Not this again, if you're still running and earning medals for another country after you become an 'American', you don't ******* deserve the AR. Got it?
A couple of points:
USA and Kenya have a trials to compete at worlds and these teams seem to get the majority of the medals.
Of course they have a trials because they are so deep and can't rely on a subjective system.
As far as running indoors, Lagat usually has a serious indoor season and has quite the collection of outdoor medals on the World scene.
Geb, El G and Bekele have held indoor world records and performed nicely outdoors.
I noticed Webb skipped indoors in 2008 after a fantastic 2007 and was flat at the 2008 Trials.
There's nothing wrong with skipping indoors. It's not a major season and you keep your base training going.
Wheating did a lot last year. XC, indoors- doubling, outdoors- doubling, part of the summer circuit.
But no XC this year.
No indoors.
He'll have a long time between races.
He may be strong and rested. Or he may be a bit flat.
We'll see. I want to see what he is capable of doing without the taxing college seasons.
Banging chicks and cashing checks.
zip it up wrote:
Yowser wrote:No indoor season in the US or Europe to sharpen, burn rust?
he's been getting his picture taken, you'll see.
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asfsf wrote:
Everyone knows Wheating parties during the winter.
Yes, more like Andrew "Weed"ing. Amirite? Amirite?
jjjjjjjj wrote:
If you're a dual citizen when you run the fastest time ever by a citizen of either country, then you should have that national record. In this case, he had run faster before he was an American citizen and so couldn't break both Kenyan and American records at the same time. When he ran 3:27, it was before the Olympics. So, are you saying that what happens after the fact is somehow relevant to what happened beforehand. So, his Kenyan record from before his American citizenship should be stripped, since "if you're running and earning medals for another country after you are a Kenyan, you don't xxxxxx deserve the KR? Got it?
Lagat should be stripped of his Olympic medal that he got under false flag? He is a liar and a cheat. You're not doing him any favors by bringing this crap up.
I can confirm that he's not going to the land down under and is schedule to open up in Eugene at one of the U of O meets.
Of course he can run the A standard now..why do you think teg lagat and solinsky are going to austarlia???
WOW!!!!! wrote:
maxruns wrote:One reason why he should race now is he needs to get the A standard in the 15 and 8....
But he's not going to be getting any A standards now anyway. Plus, if he starts racing in May, there will be plenty of time to get sharp for the big European meets in June, July, August.
With that said, I really think he should race now. If for no other reason than just something to break up the monotony of the training. Its hard to train for months at a time with no race in sight. Join the boys in Australia for some fun and a little racing.
really....will he be racing in austalia???
jmcd77 wrote:
I can confirm that he's not going to the land down under and is schedule to open up in Eugene at one of the U of O meets.
True ....BUT if he gets the A standard now it a relief....he may do well at pre and even nationals ...no doubt he will make the team in the 8 or the 15 or both...but if got injured and some point during that time he would a least have one major obstacle out of the way....
I'm rooting for Wheating, but I really doubt that he'll have a great year in 2011. I predict that he won't PR in the 1500 or mile, and maybe only by a bit in the 800m if that. Probably a non-factor at Worlds. Again, I would love to be wrong, and I'll definitely be rooting for the guy. But after his stellar achievements in 2010, the law of averages suggests a return to normalcy, especially given the lifestyle transition from college to pro.