Hiring a private coach?

asdfasd wrote:

Us "regular folks" don't need to pay for coaching. The principles of training and racing are extremely simple, well understood, and are available for free from a variety of sources. Don't fall for the "I need a coach to improve" garbage.

One more slow self coaching garbage talking ass white boy. Stop crying because you was slow in high school and college.

Forget these online self coaching ass white boys. Ask them how fast day are running today and how make up the f***ing workout. Day are all runnig a 17:12/5k with no speed workouts.

You don't know me. I bet I'm faster than you AND I can better manage my money :)

Yes we do, tell me how smart you are.

asdfasd wrote:

You don't know me. I bet I'm faster than you AND I can better manage my money :)

Yes we do! You are a 27 year old self coaching 18 flat/5k runner. You run 100 miles at a slow pace.

EliteCoachesBest wrote:

Private coaches are great so long as you don't do 'online" options.

The best private coach will be the one who meets with you face-to-face once or twice per week - actually answering your questions as they arise and visibly seeing you run, progress and never leaving you without a plan until your next meeting, modifying as per your conversations during warmup and cooldown. Listening to your thoughts.

Even better is finding one who can actually "train" alongside you while they supervize a workout (a la Bruce Denton-style). A lot of elite runners will do this for the slower population after they retire because they can talk you through the difficult portions totally in an aerobic state while you are sucking wind. Price about $125. Now that's a deal.

Forget these online scam artists posing as coaches. They're stealing your money.

I live a few hours from the nearest large city, there is no one that is going to drive to watch me run a workout.

Wrong on all counts!

asdfasd wrote:

Wrong on all counts!

So how fast can you run the mile and 5k?

Who wants to bet that an IP check of the first two posts in this thread will reveal the same address?

mcmillan.. what a joke

I'm a distance runner.

Spend 40 bucks and buy a couple of books (I like Coe's for middle distance and Daniels for 5-HM). Then start running. Or do the simple plan. Run as much as possible. Do 1 day of fast work a week and a couple days of strides. Is it optimal. No but it is close enough. Time spend worrying about training can be spent running.

hsrunner3200 wrote:

My school doesn't have a track team, only cross country. My cross country coach was never a runner, he pretty much got forced into this coaching job. Do you think I would benefit from a private coach between now and next cross season? How much do they cost?

Most states allow HS athletes to compete/train with another school if their school does not offer a program. Check with your HS State Athletic Association for details (or possibly talk to your AD). If you can find a local school that has a track program, you can do conditioning with them and then compete for them in track.

Good Luck!

I actually coach for free. All my athletes from your area (I'm guessing relatively undeveloped) have dropped their mile and 2mile PR's significantly with my training. I used to intern with flotrack, and have a pretty solid background in training knowledge. A couple of examples:

Runner A: 9:59/4:37 runner, next year under me started the season with 9:40 and 4:30 for the full mile indoors. Ruined season by donating blood, but beat an eventual 9:19 guy.

Runner B: 5:06/11:10 as a sophomore, started with me in january of his junior year and ran 4:40 and 10:16, and 16:02 for 5k this fall.

Drop me a line, I'm trying to build a reputation for myself, so I'd look forward to working with you if you give me a chance.

asdfasdfas wrote:

Spend 40 bucks and buy a couple of books (I like Coe's for middle distance and Daniels for 5-HM). Then start running.

Or do the simple plan. Run as much as possible. Do 1 day of fast work a week and a couple days of strides. Is it optimal. No but it is close enough. Time spend worrying about training can be spent running.

[quote]hsrunner3200 wrote:

My school doesn't have a track team, only cross country. My cross country coach was never a runner, he pretty much got forced into this coaching job. Do you think I would benefit from a private coach between now and next cross season? How much do they cost?

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What your times on the track today?

i dont wanna read no books.

Well, aside from being an over-glorified workout writer, a good coach will try to educate you to become capable of coaching yourself. If you don't want to learn, chances are you will be wasting your money. Learn to not be so lazy and come to understand what is means when one says "know thyself".

so not a scientist wrote:

Well, aside from being an over-glorified workout writer, a good coach will try to educate you to become capable of coaching yourself. If you don't want to learn, chances are you will be wasting your money. Learn to not be so lazy and come to understand what is means when one says "know thyself".

That is some BULL SHITE your talking. A coach only job, is to make you a faster runner.

You missing the point boat that left on the last post. Unless of course if you subscribe to my college coaches' theory on runners: they're either very bright or dumb as a bag of bricks. The brick head may be fine just taking orders. Smart guys will ultimately have figured out a lot of it but still rely on outside guidance. Nonetheless, it's up to the runner to choose this. I've never heard of a good coach who doesn't try to educate their runners. Check out Lanana's pdf on coaching methods.

We have many smart and slow ass white boys on letsrun.com We don't need 500,000,000,000,00 more.