Human Head Size...does this correalate to intelligence?

15 forty nine wrote:

Much of what we think of as 'scientific knowledge' is not fact. Just because a science journal says something or someone advances a theory does not make it fact.

What we do know for certain is that they had larger heads than ours, and that these large heads effected the birth process, lowering their birthrate in comparison with that of Homo Sapiens who had smaller heads on average than Neanderthal.

The amount of grade school logic on this board, on scientific matters, IE what teacher says is always right mentality is absurd. Most of what we know about Neanderthal is theory. Don't use theory to make an argument about anything.

Dude you're so hilariously contradicting...this is awesome. Keep up the great work!

15 forty nine wrote:

Much of what we think of as 'scientific knowledge' is not fact. Just because a science journal says something or someone advances a theory does not make it fact.

We can not know how Neanderthals interacted, hunted, or anything about their culture. We can not know if the competed, cooperated, or both with Homo Sapiens.

1) Do I really need to explain what "theory" means in science?

2) You underestimate how much we can "know" about extinct organisms/past societies to the point of hilarity.

Linda Lovelace gave some huge head, but she turned out to be an idiot.

Karl Rove has a practically concave forehead, but he turned out to be an idiot.

Not sure if you have thesis there yet.

15 forty nine wrote:

Yes, I think they go together.

I was measured to have a cranial capacity of 1800 cubic centimeters. My IQ has never tested below 160.

I am 3/4 Caucasian, 1/4 Asian heritage.

I believe, just from personal observation that whites and asians have the largest heads, followed by light skinned blacks, indians, middle easterners, and finally the smallest are the darkest skinned peoples.

If you look at global IQ distribution maps, this also seems to support my general observations. I wouldn't use it to make an overarching theory about intelligence though-

Its unfair to do that and say, so and so group is little more than chimpanzee, while saying another is better than another.

That said we should have some sort of breeding incentive for higher intelligence people to have more children, and lower intelligence people not to have children. Also, mandatory intelligence testing at a young age for school children.

Asians have small heads. In both places.

15 forty nine,

just stop talking, nobody is buying your nonsense except the dyestat kids. stop polluting the young minds of America with your dribble. and try and get an education while you are at it.

From what I've been told, intelligence is like physical beauty. There are certain physiological features that are identified as "good," but it is more important that the no other features are deficient, and that the different features be coordinated and in balance, than any one feature necessarily be present.

In other words, full lips are generally attractive on a woman's face, but you wouldn't measure lip size and claim that you have s scale for rating beauty. Same thing with physiological features and intelligence.

Georges Cuvier is the man most historically linked w/ the argument that brain size is related to intelligence. This is one of the arguments of phrenologists (though that also related to bumps on the skull and other personality traits as well). Cuvier measured thousands of brain case sizes. Really fascinating stuff to get into historically. Cuvier was found after his death to personally have one of the largest brain cases measured, so perhaps he had some self-interest at work in his theory.

Head size isn't related to intelligence you morons, but dick size is negatively correlated for sure!

One thing we can say with pretty good certainty about Neanderthal is that their larger head size was related to a larger, more powerful jaw structure which needed larger more powerful muscles and attachment points. Their brain capacity was about equivalent to modern humans, so the factors that led to the birthing canal problems appear to be unrelated to brain size. I think there are also some difference in the iliac crest shape and size as well that could effect things on that end.

Neanderthal brains were significantly bigger than human brains. Also ancient human had much bigger brains than mordern man. Makes you wonder. Its wrong to assume that since neanderthals were out competed by humans then humans are smarter. It could be as simple as humans being better runners, humans having a stronger immune system and bringing new diseases from africa, or that humans bred much faster than neanderthals, or probably a combination of all these and have nothing to do with intelligence what so ever.