OK, there's one. Do you really want to start counting?
I'll match you with Arlen Specter. Now they're chasing Olympia Snowe around with pitchforks and torches. Who's your next one?
OK, there's one. Do you really want to start counting?
I'll match you with Arlen Specter. Now they're chasing Olympia Snowe around with pitchforks and torches. Who's your next one?
The millions of Arans in Europe today should unite with the Jews to retrieve the property stolen from the Jews by European countries in WWII. Semites Unite !
How about this: Dear Jews, if you give the Palestinians their stolen land back we'll give you back the stolen property. Deal?
Wendell Gee wrote:
OK, there's one. Do you really want to start counting?
I'll match you with Arlen Specter.
To be fair, Specter was originally a Democrat then switched parties during an election when it served in his best interest. And we wasn't "run out" - he voluntarily chose to swtich back...when he thought it served his best interest...again.
Ok, back to the original thread.
The Angel of Death wrote:
To be fair, Specter was originally a Democrat then switched parties during an election when it served in his best interest. And we wasn't "run out" - he voluntarily chose to swtich back...when he thought it served his best interest...again.
Ok, back to the original thread.
True, but they haven't exactly wooed him back. You would think he switched over to Lenin and Trotsky the way they talk.
It doesn't really matter that much what Congressmen switch back and forth. What matters is when millions of voters abandon your party because you nominate radical crack jobs like Sarah Palin.
I suggest you read about Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Martin Niemöller, the originator of the quote:
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."
People who identify themselves as either Lib or Conserv are both whackos.
Any rationally thinking person sees the fallacies in both parties and draws their own opinions.
Don't be a follower. There is good and bad on both sides.
Wendell Gee wrote:
OK, there's one. Do you really want to start counting?
I'll match you with Arlen Specter. Now they're chasing Olympia Snowe around with pitchforks and torches. Who's your next one?
The GOP did not run Specter out of the GOP. George Bush campaigned FOR Specter in his last re-election bid.
Specter jumped ship to the Dems because the polls showed that PA GOP voters were going to select Toomey in the primary (Specter barely beat Toomey even with Bush's help). Electing someone else is not running someone out of the party.
Also, Specter was a Democrat in his younger days.
I am sure someone will suggest the NY 23rd race: well, the GOP did not run out the left winger; the GOP selected her.
The Democrats will not run their moderates out since they will tolerate a pro-lifer since that issue is really a dead one from a policy perspective. Of course that is biting them in the ass now that they are trying to nationalize health care.
luv2run wrote:
The GOP did not run Specter out of the GOP. George Bush campaigned FOR Specter in his last re-election bid.
Specter jumped ship to the Dems because the polls showed that PA GOP voters were going to select Toomey in the primary (Specter barely beat Toomey even with Bush's help). Electing someone else is not running someone out of the party.
Also, Specter was a Democrat in his younger days.
I am sure someone will suggest the NY 23rd race: well, the GOP did not run out the left winger; the GOP selected her.
The Democrats will not run their moderates out since they will tolerate a pro-lifer since that issue is really a dead one from a policy perspective. Of course that is biting them in the ass now that they are trying to nationalize health care.
Well, the GOP is not running these people out, but the right-wing of it is. If you can't get elected because your extreme end of the party supports other candidates, you're essentially being booted. You can read that in a variety of ways.
1. Specter jumping ship
2. Party moving out from under him
3. Party booting him
Rocking Rollie wrote:
People who identify themselves as either Lib or Conserv are both whackos.
Any rationally thinking person sees the fallacies in both parties and draws their own opinions.
Liberals and Conservatives are not parties. Identifying yourself as one or the other does not imply that you agree with everything either the Democratic or Republican party says or does. It might describe your general outlook on society, politics or morals.
So get your terminology straight before you start calling people whackos, dumbass.
There’s not that much difference between Nazi Germany and the US of today.
Americans show no remorse at over one million dead Iraqis and four million displaced Iraqis due entirely to an American invasion based on lies and deception.
The lies and deception are now well proven. Yet, there has been no apology for the horrors that Americans inflicted on Iraq.
Afghanistan is another example.
Intentional lies conflated the Taliban with al Qaeda and "terrorists." The diverse peoples in Afghanistan who were first ravaged by Soviet bombs are now ravaged by American bombs.
Weddings, funerals, children’s soccer games, people waiting for fuel or food, people asleep in their homes, people attending Mosques have all been murdered and are murdered routinely by US and its NATO puppets.
Each time civilians are murdered, the US denies it, only to be contradicted every time by the evidence.
Yet the president of the United States contemplating sending yet tens of thousands more US troops to kill people in Afghanistan.
Like Nazi Germany, he United States is an immoral country, with an immoral people and an immoral government.
Americans no longer have a moral conscience. They have gone over to the Dark Side.
On a slightly similar note, to those of you who've recommended some books, are you aware of any good ones about life in Italy before and during WWII? I'm particularly interested, again, in some of the opposition groups and the effect of the war on the Italian people in general, i.e. art, music, literature. Thanks!
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The Italians resisted passively. Service at restaurants was poor. Trains arrived 45 minutes late. Cigarette consumption in packed public places was high. Traffic signals were blatantly ignored. Mildly attractive women were incessantly hounded by sleazy men. Dog feces was left strewn across sidewalks, etc.
All of this un-Italian behavior led to the gradual collapse of the fascist government in Italy.