What WR pace could you hold till halfway?

To give you an idea of how fast a WR is, i crossed referenced the half times to 2008's IAAF Top Mark List. If you could perform any of these times, you would stack up accordingly.

100m=9.65 - a new world record

200m=21.59 - Just outside top marks of 2008

400m=50.55 - Not impressive enough for my math skillz

1500m=3.40.33 145th fastest man alive

5000m=13.08.76 - 27th fastest man alive

HM=1.01.59.5 - 109th fastest man alive

Webb when he is healthy and running well would likely have one of the highest success rates at each distance. If he trained a bit longer, I imagine he could be in that 61 minute range for a half.

I will not rest until I can say YES to all of those events.

could you imagine if you were had the record for the 100m and still could run a 1:01 for the half? What we know about the human body would go out the window.

I cant make 50% in any so I decided to predict how long I could compete in each race

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

400m 43.18 15%

800m 1:41:11 33%

1000m 2.11.96 45%

1500m 3.26.00 35%

2000m 4.44.79 29%

3000m 7.20.67 25%

5000m 12.37.35 20%

10000 26.17.53 14%

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

for those to be accurate for you, you must have thought about the distance you could run. why not write the distance and time out, so we don;t have to do the math.

Just expanding the idea a bit, I think I could manage it in HJ, LJ and TJ but probably not the throws.

Most decent high school girls could probably get the men's half-record at all the jumps (although it would take some technique work at the TJ). But lots of high school boys couldn't throw half the record, maybe not even with HS-weight implements (that's high 30's in the shot and 120's in the discus).

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

Okay, I figured I could manage to stay in the 100/200 about 1 meter because everyone starts from a standstill. At no other point could I keep up.

400m 43.18 15%

In the 400 I figured I could manage about 50 meters at <22 200 speed because they haven't reached top speed yet, and I have run 17.8x in a 150 all out before.

800m 1:41:11 33%

400 pr is 54 so I think If I went out real hard I could almost hang on through 300 in the WR 800.

1000m 2.11.96 45%

I would go out at my 400 pr and hold on for as long as possible through 500 meters.

1500m 3.26.00 35%

800 pr is 1:56 so I would go out hard and die at about 550 meters.

2000m 4.44.79 29%

With the same reasoning I would go out a bit slower but die at 600 meters instead.

3000m 7.20.67 25%

I would run my 800 best with the leaders and end there.

5000m 12.37.35 20%

Would run 1000 meters at 2 minute pace. (Never run 1000 before but I'm guessing if I ran 2 secs slow per lap in an 800 I could manage another 200 meters)

10000 26.17.53 14%

1600 pr is 4:21, Would run 1400 meters with the leaders I think.

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

3200 is 9:32, I would last for somewhere around the first 2 miles of the race.

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

Okay, I figured I could manage to stay in the 100/200 about 1 meter because everyone starts from a standstill. At no other point could I keep up.

400m 43.18 15%

In the 400 I figured I could manage about 50 meters at <22 200 speed because they haven't reached top speed yet, and I have run 17.8x in a 150 all out before.

800m 1:41:11 33%

400 pr is 54 so I think If I went out real hard I could almost hang on through 300 in the WR 800.

1000m 2.11.96 45%

I would go out at my 400 pr and hold on for as long as possible through 500 meters.

1500m 3.26.00 35%

800 pr is 1:56 so I would go out hard and die at about 550 meters.

2000m 4.44.79 29%

With the same reasoning I would go out a bit slower but die at 600 meters instead.

3000m 7.20.67 25%

I would run my 800 best with the leaders and end there.

5000m 12.37.35 20%

Would run 1000 meters at 2 minute pace. (Never run 1000 before but I'm guessing if I ran 2 secs slow per lap in an 800 I could manage another 200 meters)

10000 26.17.53 14%

1600 pr is 4:21, Would run 1400 meters with the leaders I think.

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

3200 is 9:32, I would last for somewhere around the first 2 miles of the race.

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

Okay, I figured I could manage to stay in the 100/200 about 1 meter because everyone starts from a standstill. At no other point could I keep up.

400m 43.18 15%

In the 400 I figured I could manage about 50 meters at <22 200 speed because they haven't reached top speed yet, and I have run 17.8x in a 150 all out before.

800m 1:41:11 33%

400 pr is 54 so I think If I went out real hard I could almost hang on through 300 in the WR 800.

1000m 2.11.96 45%

I would go out at my 400 pr and hold on for as long as possible through 500 meters.

1500m 3.26.00 35%

800 pr is 1:56 so I would go out hard and die at about 550 meters.

2000m 4.44.79 29%

With the same reasoning I would go out a bit slower but die at 600 meters instead.

3000m 7.20.67 25%

I would run my 800 best with the leaders and end there.

5000m 12.37.35 20%

Would run 1000 meters at 2 minute pace. (Never run 1000 before but I'm guessing if I ran 2 secs slow per lap in an 800 I could manage another 200 meters)

10000 26.17.53 14%

1600 pr is 4:21, Would run 1400 meters with the leaders I think.

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

3200 is 9:32, I would last for somewhere around the first 2 miles of the race.

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

Okay, I figured I could manage to stay in the 100/200 about 1 meter because everyone starts from a standstill. At no other point could I keep up.

400m 43.18 15%

In the 400 I figured I could manage about 50 meters at <22 200 speed because they haven't reached top speed yet, and I have run 17.8x in a 150 all out before.

800m 1:41:11 33%

400 pr is 54 so I think If I went out real hard I could almost hang on through 300 in the WR 800.

1000m 2.11.96 45%

I would go out at my 400 pr and hold on for as long as possible through 500 meters.

1500m 3.26.00 35%

800 pr is 1:56 so I would go out hard and die at about 550 meters.

2000m 4.44.79 29%

With the same reasoning I would go out a bit slower but die at 600 meters instead.

3000m 7.20.67 25%

I would run my 800 best with the leaders and end there.

5000m 12.37.35 20%

Would run 1000 meters at 2 minute pace. (Never run 1000 before but I'm guessing if I ran 2 secs slow per lap in an 800 I could manage another 200 meters)

10000 26.17.53 14%

1600 pr is 4:21, Would run 1400 meters with the leaders I think.

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

3200 is 9:32, I would last for somewhere around the first 2 miles of the race.

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

Okay, I figured I could manage to stay in the 100/200 about 1 meter because everyone starts from a standstill. At no other point could I keep up.

400m 43.18 15%

In the 400 I figured I could manage about 50 meters at <22 200 speed because they haven't reached top speed yet, and I have run 17.8x in a 150 all out before.

800m 1:41:11 33%

400 pr is 54 so I think If I went out real hard I could almost hang on through 300 in the WR 800.

1000m 2.11.96 45%

I would go out at my 400 pr and hold on for as long as possible through 500 meters.

1500m 3.26.00 35%

800 pr is 1:56 so I would go out hard and die at about 550 meters.

2000m 4.44.79 29%

With the same reasoning I would go out a bit slower but die at 600 meters instead.

3000m 7.20.67 25%

I would run my 800 best with the leaders and end there.

5000m 12.37.35 20%

Would run 1000 meters at 2 minute pace. (Never run 1000 before but I'm guessing if I ran 2 secs slow per lap in an 800 I could manage another 200 meters)

10000 26.17.53 14%

1600 pr is 4:21, Would run 1400 meters with the leaders I think.

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

3200 is 9:32, I would last for somewhere around the first 2 miles of the race.

100m 9.69 1%

200m 19.3 .5%

Okay, I figured I could manage to stay in the 100/200 about 1 meter because everyone starts from a standstill. At no other point could I keep up.

400m 43.18 15%

In the 400 I figured I could manage about 50 meters at <22 200 speed because they haven't reached top speed yet, and I have run 17.8x in a 150 all out before.

800m 1:41:11 33%

400 pr is 54 so I think If I went out real hard I could almost hang on through 300 in the WR 800.

1000m 2.11.96 45%

I would go out at my 400 pr and hold on for as long as possible through 500 meters.

1500m 3.26.00 35%

800 pr is 1:56 so I would go out hard and die at about 550 meters.

2000m 4.44.79 29%

With the same reasoning I would go out a bit slower but die at 600 meters instead.

3000m 7.20.67 25%

I would run my 800 best with the leaders and end there.

5000m 12.37.35 20%

Would run 1000 meters at 2 minute pace. (Never run 1000 before but I'm guessing if I ran 2 secs slow per lap in an 800 I could manage another 200 meters)

10000 26.17.53 14%

1600 pr is 4:21, Would run 1400 meters with the leaders I think.

Marathon 2:03:59 7.5%

3200 is 9:32, I would last for somewhere around the first 2 miles of the race.

Hey Ebay....could you post that one more time for me?

Why even include 100m 200m and 400m. No skinny letsrun poster could possibly come close to any of those.

"Ebay" figured only the highest of his multiple bids would count...

Remind us what's the WR for the beer mile? That's probably the running event where much of this board has the best shot.

Oopsie wrote:

Webb when he is healthy and running well...

When was that, again? Trying to remember? High school?

No way Webb could hit 61 for a half, even if he trained for it. If a 4 minute all out sprint is a mind game for him, put him on the road for 70 minutes.

And to that list of all-time americans who could hit the halfway split of the current 10k world record, i don't think you can count lagat only because he was not an american at that time. so the list would run:

kennedy, teg, maree, of those who did it while they were americans.

i think it is clear that solinsky would have done it last summer had he not cramped up with 200 to go.

i am confident that rupp will do it within the next year or two. other than that there are possibilities, please don't scream german (the runner not the language) at me in response, but none of them have run times or races that put them "on the precipice" like rupp and solinsky. ready to run 13:20 is a far cry from ready to run under 13:08.

not as a political issue or anything, but just to show where we as a "race" stand - only two american born men in the history of the united state (kennedy and tegenkamp) could stay, on their best day, with the halfway split of k. bekele's 10k world record.

granted, 10k is probably the event we are the weakest at - always have been. still crazy to think of it that way.

So you have to be pretty elite to do any of these except maybe the 50.55.

Let's take it a little further and see if we can do 1/4 of the distance at WR pace. (100/200 neglected for being too short)

400m 43.18/100m=10.80

800m 1:41:11/200m=25.28

1000m 2:11.96/250m=32.99 (26.39 200 pace)

Mile 3:43.13/402+m=55.78

2000m 4.44.79/500m=1:11.19

3000m 7.20.67/750m=1:50.17 (like 1:57.5 800)

5000m 12.37.35/1250m=3:09.34 (through 1200 in 3:01.77)

10000 26.17.53/2500m=6:34.38

Marathon 2:03:59/6.55mi=30:59 (4:43.8 mile pace)

this is still pretty tough.