No way wrote:
There is definitely a difference in maturity between 17 and 21. A high school senior and a college senior are totally different levels.
That said, I've been against high schoolers drinking since 2004 when a friend of mine was driving drunk and involved in an accident that killed a mutual friend. Any of you from CNY probably remember what I'm talking about.
yea and drinking helped Pre park a car on himself
You're right, I am.
I should have had one of those small bottles of vodka(is it called a naggin or something?), 4 beers and 3 shots like my friends. Of course they don't have a race tomorrow.
Anyway, getting completely pissed doesn't appeal to me at the moment because I'm kinda afraid of becoming an alco like some of my uncles. I've heard that if you don't get drunk (I didn't, just a bit of a buzz) you won't get addicted. Is this true?
In a perfect world I suppose drinking coke would be preferable but you know how it is, peer pressure and all that...
Its called a shooter
it's easy to get the alcoholic label hung on you as a teenager - just do something stupid while drunk, get caught, and it can easily snowball into "you are an alcoholic and should never drink" and you coerced into AA or rehab or both.
i'm no expert on addiction - it can happen at any age. an easy indicator is when you get older and graduate into responsibilities - marriage / mortgage / job / kids - and you are still partying ( getting drunk on purpose ) into your 30's and 40's - vs. moderation. Also, when you get older ( late 30s /early 40s ) your tolerance drops, and the weekend blowout can easily replaced / complimented by the weeknight buzz.
either way, it's all a slippery slope - i think the high school / college gauntlet of binge drinking poses an acute threat ( alcohol poisoning / dui / death from car crash ) - while the stage of life approaching middle age might represent true physical addiction from 15-20-25 years of drinking.
I totally understand what you're saying, but you really missed the point.Should we ban alcohol because my friend was killed? No. We should ban drinking and driving and drinking at 17. You said yoruself that they shouldn't have been doing what they were doing.
OMG FREAK OUT wrote:
No way wrote:That said, I've been against high schoolers drinking since 2004 when a friend of mine was driving drunk and involved in an accident that killed a mutual friend.OMFG BAN GUNS!!!
No, wait....
Yeah, we should ban alcohol because your friend was killed.
I don't mean to sound like an ass, and I probably do, but I've had three friends killed by alcohol related incidents. You know what? They shouldn't have been doing what they were doing. This isn't a high schoolers vs. adult thing as much as you'd like to make it. Shit happens man. I'm sorry what happened happened to your friend, but it does. I lost my best friend to drinking. It really sucked but you know, it was his decision.
I hope you can find peace.
So if someone is 29, gets drunk, crashes, and dies, we should ban drinking for 29 year olds??
Drinking and driving is illegal regardless of the age.....
I don't really know how my posts got twisted. All I'm saying is follow the law.
No way wrote:
No. We should ban drinking and driving and drinking at 17.
There was no twisting
if you wanna suck then have 1 or more, but if you want to do 100 % then don't have any.
pretty simple, huh?
if your worried what people will think, after you get the beer, pour it out and fill it up w. water or tea or sports drink.
xclover7777777 wrote:
if you wanna suck then have 1 or more, but if you want to do 100 % then don't have any.
pretty simple, huh?
if your worried what people will think, after you get the beer, pour it out and fill it up w. water or tea or sports drink.
I actually did this alot in college during the running seasons. All of my friends knew I ran and didn't care that I didn't drink, but there are always the people who think drinking is the only way to be cool and hassle you about it. I would have a red solo cup full of gatorade or soda. Noone knew the difference.
I drink more than everyone on my team expect maybe one 260 pound thrower, and I will also score more points than anyone else on my team at state. The difference between me and you is that I don't do anything stupid like drink so close to a race, or race 10Ks for that matter. Out of the whole year, why are you trying to prove that you're "down wit it" and drink two days before a race? Guess what, the people who are always trying to look cool get as much respect as the pansies who come to parties and hold up their moral standards. If you want to be respected, just explain that you would drink but you have a race in two days, and if you don't have a race, then get hammered, hook up with a hot chick, and puke on her.
mjghju wrote:
You're right, I am.
I should have had one of those small bottles of vodka(is it called a naggin or something?), 4 beers and 3 shots like my friends. Of course they don't have a race tomorrow.
Anyway, getting completely pissed doesn't appeal to me at the moment because I'm kinda afraid of becoming an alco like some of my uncles. I've heard that if you don't get drunk (I didn't, just a bit of a buzz) you won't get addicted. Is this true?
In a perfect world I suppose drinking coke would be preferable but you know how it is, peer pressure and all that...
If you're a pansy then you shouldn't race, cause you'll probably lose. You question is kind of like "How little can I train and still do well?"
wayof wrote:
You're right, I am.
I should have had one of those small bottles of vodka(is it called a naggin or something?), 4 beers and 3 shots like my friends. Of course they don't have a race tomorrow.
Anyway, getting completely pissed doesn't appeal to me at the moment because I'm kinda afraid of becoming an alco like some of my uncles. I've heard that if you don't get drunk (I didn't, just a bit of a buzz) you won't get addicted. Is this true?
In a perfect world I suppose drinking coke would be preferable but you know how it is, peer pressure and all that...
Drinking coke is a waste of time. Snorting it is another matter...
Well since you bumped this.... 46.01 a new PR! (talk about nearly breaking a barrier). Really happy, I started off too fast (41 min pace) and struggled in the middle but I really pushed it to the limit near the end. All those 55mile weeks are starting to pay off. Hopefully I can break 45 before June.
Does it not depend on whom you are with?
I know your race has passed but for future reference, avoid drinking within 48 hours of a race. For the week before, if it's a big race avoid drinking as much as possible. For less important races stick to the "safe drinking" rules which decrease the funness, but also decrease the amount of detriment to your running. Limit yourself to 1 drink/hr and fill in the gaps with non-alcoholic drinks (water preferable).
you are a tool wrote:
I drink more than everyone on my team expect maybe one 260 pound thrower, and I will also score more points than anyone else on my team at state. The difference between me and you is that I don't do anything stupid like drink so close to a race, or race 10Ks for that matter. Out of the whole year, why are you trying to prove that you're "down wit it" and drink two days before a race? Guess what, the people who are always trying to look cool get as much respect as the pansies who come to parties and hold up their moral standards. If you want to be respected, just explain that you would drink but you have a race in two days, and if you don't have a race, then get hammered, hook up with a hot chick, and puke on her.
actually, you are the tool. let the guy do what he wants. drinking three beers even the night before a race is no big deal.
you can drink a 6 pack over 3 hours and be ok
If your running 46, than drink as much as you want. Its not like your going for a national qualifier or anything