Treadmills, real running or wimpy running.

Right now it's dark, -6 air temp, -20 wind chill, I just got out of a warm bed...Yea, I'm going to go turn on Bob & Tom and do my morning run on the treadmill, and feel pretty good about it!!!

How do you guys evaluate fast performances on a treadmill? One of my teammates ran for 2:00 at 16mph (no incline) a while back at the end of a run. No joke. If you do the math, it would be a 1:52.5 800m split that he held for another few seconds. His PR from a few years back (he's a 5k guy and didn't run it last year) is 1:53.6. It seems crazy that he could PR on the treadmill in an 800, not even during the season.

That is impressive. But it's not surprising. There was no wind resistence. According to at least one conversion chart 5 flat pace at 0% is like 5:13 pace with wind resistence. 6 flat is like 6:15, and 7 flat is like 7:17. Thus 4 flat would be the equivalent of 4:11. Since your friend was running 3:45 pace then you would add about 10.5 seconds on to that using the conversion factor. Thus he was going the "equivalent" of 3:55.5 pace. Which is 1:57.7. Which is reasonable for a 1:53.6 guy even out of season.http://www.hillrunner.com/training/tmillchart.phpStill of course there is a bit of extrapolation and I doubt every individual who has run 1:53 would be able to run 2 minutes at 16mph on a treadmill with 0% grade. Also, even a miniscule problem with calibration in the treadmill could make that run considerably easier (or harder I suppose).

.weflakjf. wrote:

How do you guys evaluate fast performances on a treadmill? One of my teammates ran for 2:00 at 16mph (no incline) a while back at the end of a run. No joke. If you do the math, it would be a 1:52.5 800m split that he held for another few seconds. His PR from a few years back (he's a 5k guy and didn't run it last year) is 1:53.6. It seems crazy that he could PR on the treadmill in an 800, not even during the season.

Threads about how "real" treadmill running is: New hotness or old and busted?

chuckles the clown wrote:

Threads about how "real" treadmill running is: New hotness or old and busted?

Still say, runnin' is runnin' no matter what.

"Real" t-mill running?

chuckles the clown wrote:

Threads about how "real" treadmill running is: New hotness or old and busted?

Sine this is somewhere around the 85th thread on this subject that I can remember...old and busted.

Without a doubt.

imo, running on a treadmill is to running outside as jerking off is to having sex.

opinions are like assholes...

at moments like this, just remember. what would geb do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXMUJdc6gqM

im here im clear wrote:

at moments like this, just remember. what would geb do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXMUJdc6gqM

Good one, thanks for posting link.

oldsbxc wrote:

imo, running on a treadmill is to running outside as jerking off is to having sex.

You're not really qualified to make that kind of judgment. Come back and tell us how you feel after you lose your virginity.

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I'm sure physically treadmill running is fine, but I just can't stand it. I love running outside, especially in the winter, and I'm not going to be stuck jerking off for an hour in some overheated room under the fluorescents.

From past experience...

Running fast is easier on the treadmill but running slower is much more difficult.

Also after doing some treadmill running my average run pace becomes much faster the next few times I go out. When I'm normally plodding along at 8/9mm (I like to run slow most of the time (for ref: I'm a sub 16 (just) 5k guy), and run my workouts hard), after doing a treadmill session even at say 8mm I'll go out and find myself running sub 7mm without thinking about it.

and mentally so much harder...nailing 75 minutes out on the treadmill is just dull.

oldsbxc wrote:

imo, running on a treadmill is to running outside as jerking off is to having sex.

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haha yea, but try jerking off on a treadmill. that should equal either sex or outside running, but not both. :)

If the TN can accommodate the workout, then sure it's legit.

If there's a lot of ice on the road or track you're going to get a lot better work out done on the TM. Same with the heat, you can go slog around in 100 degree weather at a very very very slow pace and feel like total crap, or go for an actual run on the TM.