Top D3 Recruits this year?

sure I have.

in the know.... wrote:They have alot of angles to get 'aid' to good athletes in d3. they just aren't called 'athletic scholarships'.

I believe the rumors of this kind of thing far outrun the actuality, at least in the past 10 years or so. I regularly hear these rumors about my school--that we have sham "academic" or "leadership" awards we give to athletes--but have never seen it. Honestly. The NCAA requires financial aid offices to demonstrate that aid to athletes falls in line with aid to everyone else. I'm not saying this kind of skirting the rules never happens, but I don't believe it's widespread at all.

One reason why these rumors persist, I think, is that many coaches are happy to imply to kids that they "pulled some strings" to maximize aid (and make a recruit feel like he's a big deal), but I think most times the kid gets what any other non-athlete with similar finances and academic record would get and the financial aid office knows nothing about these "strings" and may not even know the kid is an athlete. So, even if some DIII runner says his coach got him a scholarship, it may not be true...

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Floating Joan Heads wrote:

Ever hear of the UAA?

For those who *haven't* heard of the UAA, it comprises eight national-level research institutions: Brandeis, Carnegie-Mellon, CWRU, Chicago, Emory, NYU, Rochester, and WUStL. The Johns Hopkins University was, but I believe no longer is, also a member.

Both NESCAC and the UAA are top academic conferences. NESCAC focuses on liberal-art colleges, while the UAA has research universities. It's like comparing apples and oranges (but *really good* apples and *really good* oranges). The members of both conferences are Div. III schools.

kibitzer is correct. UAA schools are primarily research institutions with very little emphasis on undergraduate education. DIII mainly comprises solid, all-undergraduate liberal arts colleges of <2000 students. The UAA and the WIAC (state schools) and a few state schools in NY state are the exceptions to this rule. Most all DIII's are in Ohio, PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, and all throughout the northeast. If you are truly interested in a rewarding undergraduate experience where all classes are taught by profs (no TAs), all classes have less than 50 people (there are some exceptions), and you cherish personal attention then DIII is for you.

In addition, you get more individualized coaching at the DIII level and it is my personal beliefs that DIII runners are much more likely than DI or DII runners to be lifelong runners.

Calvin will get a bunch of low profile guys and still win Nationals! Ha-Ha

Get out wrote:

kibitzer is correct. UAA schools are primarily research institutions with very little emphasis on undergraduate education. DIII mainly comprises solid, all-undergraduate liberal arts colleges of <2000 students. The UAA and the WIAC (state schools) and a few state schools in NY state are the exceptions to this rule. Most all DIII's are in Ohio, PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, and all throughout the northeast. If you are truly interested in a rewarding undergraduate experience where all classes are taught by profs (no TAs), all classes have less than 50 people (there are some exceptions), and you cherish personal attention then DIII is for you.

In addition, you get more individualized coaching at the DIII level and it is my personal beliefs that DIII runners are much more likely than DI or DII runners to be lifelong runners.

Totally wrong about UAA schools saying that they focus very little on undergraduate education. Did you just make that up? Check the US News UNDERGRADUATE national rankings. Besides the Ivy League, the UAA is the only conference in America with all of their schools ranked in the top 40 in the nation. When you have schools like Wash U, U Chicago, NYU, Emory, etc in the conference, your statement looks utterly ridiculous. Also, comparing the UAA to the WIAC is just as ludicrous.

D3? Ha,Ha,Ha!!! 1st place in D3 is like 50th place in D1...

Does anyone know who is the 50th, 51st, and 52st D1? I didn't think so... Its the same thing!!!

You're an idiot. The guy who was 50th at the D1 meet is on scholarship. The first place D1 guy is not.

Going Nowhere Fast wrote:

D3? Ha,Ha,Ha!!! 1st place in D3 is like 50th place in D1...

Does anyone know who is the 50th, 51st, and 52st D1? I didn't think so... Its the same thing!!!

Haha this is always my favorite post. I'll just throw two guys out there from the past two years. Will Leer just made the finals of the 1500 at USATF USA Nationals. Nick Symmonds recently beat the reigning Olympic champion at 800 meters, and has taken 2nd in the USATF USA Nationals the past two years. If you can find 50 guys at ANY level in the United States that can beat Leer or Symmonds in the 1500 or 800, I would love to see it.

I'm going to sleep easily tonight regardless of what you think (troll?). Hope you had a great 4th of July.

So, as I sit at the Undergraduate Admissions office at one of the UAA schools I would like to share with you some statistics. 99% of classes are taught by professors at this particular institution. We pride our selves in being able to offer students a well rounded liberal arts education at one of the finest research universities in the country if not the world. Avg class size is 17 students, faculty:student ratio is 8:1, and oh yes its ranked 2nd in the country for percentage of faculty ranked in one of the four prestigious scholar societies. speaking of which, this institution was the youngest school ever to be inducted into phi beta kappa (13 yrs after its beginning). So lets just think a little bit before we talk about things we do not know about.

word on the block is that he is now going d1 to a big 12 school...tough hit for nyu

who is? rewaka? how did you hear this? looks like the uaa championship in the 800 wont be a lock for the next 4 years.

rewaka to nebraska.....late decision

its a long season wrote:

Totally wrong about UAA schools saying that they focus very little on undergraduate education. Did you just make that up? Check the US News UNDERGRADUATE national rankings. Besides the Ivy League, the UAA is the only conference in America with all of their schools ranked in the top 40 in the nation. When you have schools like Wash U, U Chicago, NYU, Emory, etc in the conference, your statement looks utterly ridiculous. Also, comparing the UAA to the WIAC is just as ludicrous.

BAM!