Lagat, like most of the world, doesn't give a sh!t about the mile, and takes few if any serious shots at fast times in that "event."
Lagat, like most of the world, doesn't give a sh!t about the mile, and takes few if any serious shots at fast times in that "event."
flogee wrote:
what brand of crack are you guys sniffing?
Haha, it's funny when people are clueless about drugs and say/write things like this.
I'd like to Webb win or PR or both, but I think the AR is too out of reach at this point still.
gonna go with 3:30 and change. i believe his confidence to be at an all time high right now, after beating lagat at USATF (and i don't care if Lagat did run the 5k also...Webb beat him).
from a racing perspective, i think going for the win is the most important factor right now with WC's a month away and OLY games right around the corner. a new AR would be incredible, but with the focus on WC's, i don't think the AR will happen in July. last year would have been the year for record chasing. this year and next year is medal chasing.
gonna have to say 1.48 or higher and then go with 3:37 or higher, always great to be the last bidder
I dont know what webb will run so i wont bet about it, but what i will say is that i would bet that by china, Bernard Lagat will be standing on the line for the 1500 meter final to win a gold medal and Alan Webb will be watching from the stands.. Mark my word
Webb has devised some tactics...and a kick...that have made him capable to winning major races. That should remain his goal.
666 wrote:
The AR is 3:29.30 by Bernard Lagat. Worth a 3:45.8-3:46.0 mile, Webb ain't touching that yet.
Dont have a calc in front of me...but pretty sure its more like a 3:47.04.
Mrr82 wrote:
666 wrote:The AR is 3:29.30 by Bernard Lagat. Worth a 3:45.8-3:46.0 mile, Webb ain't touching that yet.
Dont have a calc in front of me...but pretty sure its more like a 3:47.04.
meant to say 3:46.04. Huge difference between 3:46.00 and that
I dont understand how anyone could think that Webb wont make the final. He made it back when he had crappy tactics and no kick and now he has both and you think he wont get there? Is it just that you cant see 2 americans in the field? Its gonna happen, I know the four horsemen are saddling up and ready to ride at the sight of 2 Americans in a distance final, but its gonna happen.
Mrr82 wrote:
Mrr82 wrote:Dont have a calc in front of me...but pretty sure its more like a 3:47.04.
meant to say 3:46.04. Huge difference between 3:46.00 and that
Mercier gives 3:45.82, Purdy gives 3:46.8. Possible that he can get somewhere in the gap to make it close. But the rabbits would have to pace it for a sub 3:30 (if he's expected to try to win) to a WR attempt (if he's just trying to hang on to the lead group). It would have to go PERFECT for Webb to have a shot.
I think he has a very good shot.
It is Webb so I will go 3:35.5 +/- 5.8 seconds, eith an equal likely hood of any time in that range.
be realistic guys, Lagat had to scrape very close to the bottom of the barrell to beat teg, who is flying and who's PR is only 5secs slower than Lagats, before he doubled back to try and beat an inform Webb.
Thats is an incredible double to try and acheive against probably two all time greats of american running.
I agree that webb is in the best form of his life and could PR if the race goes well for him, but I think more like 3.31 (very likely) - 3.30 possible.
666 wrote:
The AR is 3:29.30 by Bernard Lagat. Worth a 3:45.8-3:46.0 mile, Webb ain't touching that yet.
He ran 3:48 couple years ago. Hes definately within grasp.
Forget any comparisons based on performance-based points value -- the mile is not run with the same frequency anymore. Just use the "standard" factor of 1.08 and if any table comparison gives you much different then you know you should ignore that set of tables for this type of comparison. The 8% factor yields 3:46.0, and his 2:26 is even better at ~3:43.0.Also, AW ran 1:45.80/2nd today, which bodes well for his conditioning/speed.
Coach D wrote:
Mrr82 wrote:meant to say 3:46.04. Huge difference between 3:46.00 and that
Mercier gives 3:45.82, Purdy gives 3:46.8. Possible that he can get somewhere in the gap to make it close. But the rabbits would have to pace it for a sub 3:30 (if he's expected to try to win) to a WR attempt (if he's just trying to hang on to the lead group). It would have to go PERFECT for Webb to have a shot.
I say Webb definitely breaks it.
There is no way that Webb will break the American record tomorrow. He has a good shot at setting a PR, but not by three seconds.