Trinity got 3rd but teams 3-7 were within 40pts of each other and their 6th runner was 159th. I don't see Norte (obviously), Moorhead, or Anderson improving much on last year. If their freshman replaces Gravel, they are basically the same as last year. Amherst, MIT, and Brandeis should be at least that good.
I agree that Keene St. could surprise. They've been consistently good for so long it's hard to see them being down for more than a year or two.
Nice list, though I don't know that Bowdoin has done anything since cross last year to really impress (a few fine runs, just no consistency). Trinity is bringing back a lot, lets see if they blow all their talent in the first 2 weeks of the season again. If Amherst could put it all together, they would easily be a contender, but history is against them. Williams did have everyone perform extremely well at the end of last season, so it is hard to expect they\'ll do quite the same again. However, they had the deepest roster by far (I don\'t think Chaffee and Burgess didn\'t run postseason, but picked up national qualifiers in the mile and steeple later), so I think there is a good chance someone from Williams will light it up next season. I pick Williams, with Kosgei individual champ.
Good call. Reminds me of the Buckeyes' inability to close the deal in football. Or was that basketball?
I do not think this has been mentioned. Kosgie was on that list, if this is the steepler from Hamilton, he would not be competing in the New England race, but rather the Atlantic
Edgar Kosgei (sp?) is a Kenyan mid-distance rising sophomore from Williams.
Thanks for pointing that out. I was referring to the steepler - never paid much attention to Hamilton in XC before.
Kosgey is one of those Williams guys who could very well step up and be a scoring runner for them. His strength seems to lie in shorter distances so far, though.
hey don't u think that the girls deserve something what about jen adams 3 time all-americam and a great all around runner.
hey do u think that jen adams i runner from keen that had only run 3 seasons technically and has 5 all american could be a counteder i think she could be a great contender and she is real hott!
Ladies and gentlemen, Keene State.
So in that top 35, you have atleast 3 guys from keene, yet have them outside the top 5, whereas you have some top 5 teams with very few guys in the top 35 indiv, something needs to be adjusted to make those two lists correlate better.
I think Kelleher and Samuel are the only Keene guys on the list. Meant to put Brian McDonald from Brandeis in 12th. That gives MIT and Brandeis 2 guys each in the top 20 so they should all be comparable up front. MIT (Schneider/Arumagum) and Brandeis (Jennings/Guilinger) both have 3/4 runners who should also be near the top 35. I don't know if Najem/Garrity/ Davis are quite there yet for Keene.
What kind of recruits are we talking about for the various schools?
What if any freshmen will make an impact on the regional scene this season.
All I know is that on paper williams should lose, and tufts is a major underdog.
When it comes down to it, bowdoin is the best team out there. If Abrams, Krah, Ogilvie, and Hall are all on their game, they will have 4 guys in the top 15 at regionals. And that is assuming Lonsdale is still hurt.
I would have to agree, I feel as though Bowdoin is the heavy favorite, and Williams might be overvalued on this list so far, but then again they are williams. Tufts team should be better than last years team, but I think other teams will jump over them. Their fifth place finish last year was deserved as they were the fifth best team that day, but i do not believe they were the fifth best team last season. Keene State's finish last year was out of the ordinary, and they should be in the hunt for a nationals spot, assuming the region gets 5 in. I think wesleyan will drop off quite a bit this year, but other than that, nothing within the top 7 or 8 teams in NE is for certain.
bowdoin, williams, keene, tufts for 2-5...and im thinking brandeis ftw...we'll see
whats your feeling on the individuals?
everyone seems very high on Bowdoin and IM not even sure that they are the second best team in NE. I like Amherst and Williams a little better personally. Looking at track times what does Bowdoin return?
Hall- 15:38 and 10:50
Krah- 15:18 31:46
Ogilvie- 201 401 1535 953
Katilic-407
lonsedale- 1542
ahika-1552
abrhams-?????
Amherst
Murner- 15:08
Eubank-1512
Harbus-15:14i 1517
Lakehomer-1512i 1540
Morrissey-Former XC all american
Foote-956 1600
Williams
Christian- 1458i 3137 413 1519
Seybert- 403 1511i 1513
Watts- 1516
Perlis- 359 1516
Chaffee-153 356 413y
Burgess- 918 4 1550
Kosgei-154 357
Levin-415 1519
Deady-944
Brandeis for the win? Where do you see them coming out ahead of Bowdoin? If they improve on 6th place from last year that'd be impressive but NESCAC will once again dominate the top end of the region. Brandeis could possibly beat out Keene and MIT as the top non-NESCAC school.
My dark horse is Amherst with Morrissey, Murner and Lakehomer as a strong 1-2-3 punch leading them to nationals. They keep 5 out of their top 7 and Morrissey was one of the best New England had two years ago, and will once again dominate this year.
If you are talking track times, i do not think either of those 3 teams should be the focus of discussion, but then again, thats why we race 5 miles on grass and hills, and not a rubber oval.
top 5
Williams....so many fast guys
bowdoin....returning alot
Trinity....good 1,2,3 with the new guiy coming in
Amherst....proboly will have a sloid pack
keene....with kelleher taking it at regionals and a mediocore crew behind him