Pre-Nat's Entries are up

duke guys should be in the open

Okay. Here are my predictions for each of the mens' race.

Blue Race

Individual Winner: Robert Cheseret

Top 5 Finishers: Robert Cheseret, Seth Pilkington, Andrew Lemoncello, Wesley Korir, Scott Overall

Winning Team: Colorado

White Race

Individual Winner: Josh McDougal

Top 5 Finishers: Josh McDougal, Josh Rohatinsky, Nef Araia, Patrick Smyth, "Lamong, Lopez" (2nd place at Griak from Northern Arizona)

Winning Team: Stanford

Open Race

Individual Winner: no idea

Top 5 Finishers: no idea

Winning Team: no idea

I know I went with safe picks for who would win each race, but for the blue race, Colorado's closest competitor would be Arizona, but if Colorado runs this race like they did last year, they'll be treating it like it's NCAA's and really go for the win. I know that sounds lame because why wouldn't they want to go for the win, and I say to that, they're going to be running their top guys, which is usually only reserved for races that they feel they must win, so they're treating Pre-Nat's like it's a race that they must win. I think a lot of teams will be right on their heels though.

As for the white race, there really isn't a team there that can compete with Stanford. Notre Dame only has a few guys would could compete with Stanford's top 5, but other than that, maybe Florida, maybe Northern Arizona,maybe BYU. That's my 2 cents.

It's PreNats.

What's the purpose of having prenats for lots of these teams? It's usually the first time that lots of these teams put together prospective A-teams and see how they all react in fast race settings. So should Oregon, Wisco, Portland, Arkansas, etc, decide to run elsewhere with their A teams is their prep. Their coaches know what they're doing and I suggest you take it for what it is. My beef my friends, is that people like Josh McDougal are surrounded with "sub-23" talk. Hey assmonkey, you've seen the course, you know what you're capable of, and your team won't make the meet in November so they don't need to see the course. SO HOW ABOUT THIS YEAR YOU TAKE IT EASY FOR A WHILE. Go to some small meet and get the work in and relax until NCAA's. He's crapped the bed in the past and if he runs something rediculous tomorrow, he'll do it again this year. I will bet any money that he will be top 10, maybe crack top 5, just like every other time.

I think you make a good assessment all around. Colorado will probably run much better than they did at the Shoot-out, and I noticed that Harkrader is on the roster, which will make a big difference. If Nelson can get it together and Harkrader is as ready as people say, Colorado will be back in the conversation by mid-day Saturday...Scary potential:

Vaughn 23:43 (4)

Pifer 23:51 (6)

Harkrader 23:58 (8)

Nelson 24:02 (10)

Strang 24:11 (16)

Janson 24:30 (30)

DeMoor/Heinonen 24:33 (33)

44 points. Is that realistic? We'll see, that's my prediction.

I didn't realize 4th as a Soph (behind Bairu, Solinsky & Kiplagat) was bad. & actually... Liberty has a chance to make it out of their region this year.

I don't think 44 points is realistic for CU, more like 60.

About The E.kENTUCKY guy,Korir.He Chased McDougal to the line two weeks ago. McDougal was latter stretched off.

go nef wrote:

and the northern arizona guy that was second at griak

Korir had a hamstring injury for 6 weeks at the end of track and is really just starting to get fit. He felt pretty flat and had no turnover in the late stages of the race against McDougal. I look for him to be 1st or second at PreNats. He'll win Nats.

Jacob Korir ran a 13:40 5000m last track season.

He was slightly injured when he did that.

irun wrote:

Jacob Korir ran a 13:40 5000m last track season.

There will be two Jacob Korir's running tomorrow. A second runs for Central Michigan (Sammy's brother).

r e l a x wrote:

Liberty has a chance to make it out of their region this year.

Hahaha

make it out for prenats maybe.

Dude, Liberty got smoked at the Louisville meet, and Virginia and William and Mary weren't even there.

Last year, Liberty people were talking about how they were going to make nationals too....get real guys, you're not close. You've only got 3 good runners.

goober wrote:

r e l a x wrote:

Liberty has a chance to make it out of their region this year.

Hahaha

make it out for prenats maybe.

Dude, Liberty got smoked at the Louisville meet, and Virginia and William and Mary weren't even there.

Last year, Liberty people were talking about how they were going to make nationals too....get real guys, you're not close. You've only got 3 good runners.

Liberty has no chance. I think W&M is a long shot too--real melt down in progress with injuries and weak supporting cast for Landry/Fitzgerald.

Melt down at William and Mary??? I don't think so. I have heard they are banged up and will not show well this weekend.

I will be surprised if Martin Fagan and Bobby Curtis are not in or near top 5 .

the dude was 4 seconds behind mcdougal. that is about 30 yards. mcdougal has jacob's koir's of EKU number...

Uhl will win the Blue Race.

Is the open race open entry to non-collegiate runners also? I'm entertaining the idea of putting some of you posters in your place. Please tell me I can.

What about the women?